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68. I know. Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK.

Sun May 15, 2016, 01:57 PM

May 2016

The forensic evidence is pretty much definitive. Both recovered bullets came from his gun.

No matter how many shooters there were in Dealy Plaza that day the only shooter that hit Connelly and JFK was Oswald.

I know that that won't stop people thinking otherwise. Ruby's shooting of Oswald surely seems like a silencing. Both Oswald and Ruby were what can be fairly characterized as losers. This adds to the conspiracy justifications. Why these two people?

However, history is messy. There are all sorts of crazy things that just happen. The measure of the conspiracy theory is to ask, "if not this, what really happened?" Conspiracy theorists can never answer that question because their entire justification is "not this" and the evidence be damned.

Oswald shot Connelly and JFK that day, and later shot Officer Tippit. That is what all the forensic evidence says.

Case closed.

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