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40. Did Judith Miller write this?

Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:11 PM

Dec 2016

No, she did not. What do you find to be factually incorrect about this specific article that leads you to believe it is 'fake news'?

There's not much wiggle room here. Either he ran off or he didn't. Either he is asking for a pardon or he isn't.

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Bowe Bergdahl, Facing Desertion Trial, Asks Obama for Pardon [View all] Begabig Dec 2016 OP

I hope he gets a pardon philosslayer Dec 2016 #1

some troops in Bergdahl's unit got killed looking for him (or so the media tells me) Botany Dec 2016 #3

There isn't that much to directly connect the deaths to the search for Bergdahl ToxMarz Dec 2016 #6

Desertion metroins Dec 2016 #26

Fuck this deserter leftynyc Dec 2016 #43

I dont see it happening as he has not been convicted of a crime as of this moment and cstanleytech Dec 2016 #2

In order to get a POTUS pardon, the recipient MUST ACKNOWLEDGE GUILT. MADem Dec 2016 #4

Exactly. He was imprisoned this 5 yrs, give OTH discharge and be done uppityperson Dec 2016 #7

I'd go with dishonorable and walk yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #58

From wiki: yallerdawg Dec 2016 #8

ACCEPTANCE of the pardon means you have acknowledged you committed the crime. MADem Dec 2016 #11

Nope, sorry but desertion while engaed with any enemy doesn't just get a pass because he's a twit. Leontius Dec 2016 #10

"Engaged with the enemy?" He was pooping when he was picked up. MADem Dec 2016 #12

Yeah I forgot nobody shits in a combat zone. Leontius Dec 2016 #19

They don't wear civvies and go walkabout if they're of sound mind. nt MADem Dec 2016 #22

He actively sought the enemy metroins Dec 2016 #27

No, he thought he'd walk to India. He wasn't in his right mind. nt MADem Dec 2016 #63

He wrote letters to his dad metroins Dec 2016 #64

I invite your attention the Newsweek article I have posted. MADem Dec 2016 #66

You can quit digging now, I'm sure it's getting warm in that hole. Leontius Dec 2016 #36

You can stop being snarky and personal, and discuss the topic like an adult. MADem Dec 2016 #65

You can only be dishonorably discharged after a general court-martial jmowreader Dec 2016 #14

They could expedite his courts martial and issue the pardon after the fact. MADem Dec 2016 #15

If the military would agree, that would work. jmowreader Dec 2016 #17

Manning did something similar. Guilty plea in exchange for taking the DP off the table. MADem Dec 2016 #23

His lawyers could make the deal directly with Justice/WH lawyers. MADem Dec 2016 #73

The President has pretty much unlimited power to grant pardons in federal cases Jose Garcia Dec 2016 #57

The POTUS does not sign off on any pardon that has not been vetted by Justice and the MADem Dec 2016 #59

Nixon never admitted guilt, yet Ford pardoned him Jose Garcia Dec 2016 #60

The act of accepting the pardon is the acknowledgement of guilt. MADem Dec 2016 #68

How would Bergdahl get a fair court-martial... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #5

His best bet is a plea deal, ASAP, as outlined upthread--IMO. MADem Dec 2016 #75

Probably military intel. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #9

What? Begabig Dec 2016 #20

GOP criticized Obama for not getting him back and then criticized Obama for getting him back. keithbvadu2 Dec 2016 #13

Yes and his father was used for fundraising underpants Dec 2016 #51

That exchange was scary to watch, especially with Republicans turning up their nagging of Obama. Sunlei Dec 2016 #53

Trump thinks Bergdahl should have been executed jmowreader Dec 2016 #16

5 years as a prisoner of war and another couple years waiting trial is ENOUGH PUNISHMENT. Sunlei Dec 2016 #18

Family is Republican and Obama already did them one favor at his expense hollowdweller Dec 2016 #21

Do any of you valiant fighting keyboarders really know what war does to human beings ? FairWinds Dec 2016 #24

I've been there and done all that and Bergdahl can rot... Begabig Dec 2016 #25

So have I . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #30

Are you saying the NY Times is fake news? Begabig Dec 2016 #34

Are you kidding me with your . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #38

Did Judith Miller write this? Begabig Dec 2016 #40

You made a GENERAL comment about . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #41

About what? Begabig Dec 2016 #46

The way to "walk away from war" is to invoke one's right to not join the military in the first place brooklynite Dec 2016 #37

Again, you have no idea at all . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #42

It is incumbent on DOD to vet personnel before accessing them. MADem Dec 2016 #67

Indeed. MADem Dec 2016 #69

He shouldn't get one. WhoWoodaKnew Dec 2016 #28

He shouldn't get one and I don't know why Obama stuck his neck out doc03 Dec 2016 #29

pardoning Bergdahl would be disgracefull... beachbum bob Dec 2016 #31

Where was your outrage when Scooter Libbey FairWinds Dec 2016 #32

All over DU leftynyc Dec 2016 #44

And why are y'all so in love with a Republican war of choice ?? FairWinds Dec 2016 #33

Really, at Veterans For Peace they were against it....what a surprise.. EX500rider Dec 2016 #35

To reiterate . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #39

He already served a five year sentence. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #45

Play stupid games... Win stupid prizes... Begabig Dec 2016 #47

Not sure why you are so caught up on this as if this guy was an actual traitor. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #48

There was a world before Trump... Begabig Dec 2016 #49

Trump made it a point to falsely call Bergdahl a "traitor" and use it as an argument against Obama. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #50

Accountability doesn't mean washing our hands of him... Begabig Dec 2016 #61

At this point, I don't trust the irrational incoming President who wants to politicize the case. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #62

You're mistaken. They KNEW where he was. IN PAKISTAN. MADem Dec 2016 #74

"clemency application" submitted, not a pardon. Can the President grant clemency as POW time served? Sunlei Dec 2016 #52

That's even less problematic. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #54

Obamas used clemency a lot recently. I just don't know if he could use it for a military case? Sunlei Dec 2016 #55

I would think as Commander in Chief he could. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #56

Obama already got him one "pardon" by getting him home... Blue_Tires Dec 2016 #70

There were 4,000 deserters in 2001 alone . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #71

Bergdahl never should've been allowed to stay in the military to begin with. phleshdef Dec 2016 #72