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42. 32% of workers are saving in 401ks, 79% work for employers that offer them
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 04:07 PM
Jul 2018

Last edited Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:00 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.fool.com/retirement/2017/06/19/does-the-average-american-have-a-401k.aspx

According to data from the U.S. Census Bureau, only 32% of Americans are saving for retirement in a 401(k). Granted, that owes partly to the fact that 401(k)s are employer-dependent, and not every company offers one.

Data from the Census Bureau suggests that as little as 14% of all employers offer a 401(k), yet Census researchers recently estimated that 79% of Americans work for an employer that sponsors a 401(k)-style retirement plan. How is that possible? Large companies that employ high numbers of workers are the most likely to sponsor retirement plans.

All that said, not everyone who's offered an employer-sponsored plan actually takes advantage of it. Of those 79% of Americans who get the choice to fund a 401(k), only 41% opt to participate. As such, just 32% of the total workforce is saving in a 401(k).


Add to that pension plans that most government and public sector workers are covered by. And still some private sector workers.

All that adds up to maybe 40% or so or workers with one or the other or both. When we include the families they support, that is roughly 130 million people.

I should have been more specific that the fluctuations of the daily markets do not affect poor and working people.


If were talking about a big trade war, we're not talking about daily fluctuations. We're talking about a big risk of a multi-year bear market. I can guarantee that's going to affect low- and average-income people in many ways which I covered in my previous post (#39). Add to that lower tax revenues, resulting in less spending on benefits and services...

Or as The Velveteen Ocelot put it in #34:

If a company's stock loses value it can't borrow money as easily, if at all, or attract new investors; the result might be layoffs of employees, the lack of new job creation, or other measures that affect wages and jobs. A bad market affects people who don't own stock. See "The Great Depression."


Anyway, it looks like we've come to an impasse.
He's playing with his supporters' jobs, houses, healthcare, and retirement; not "bank's money". nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #1
+1000 n/t MBS Jul 2018 #2
He could care less about his supporters or anyone else. pazzyanne Jul 2018 #10
Really ? He is playing with our money. His supporters voted for him. Trust Buster Jul 2018 #25
I'm not. Perhaps you aren't paying attention to the news (perhaps you are). Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #40
What an idiot. He's not playing with bank money; spooky3 Jul 2018 #3
That's not how that works man...... Afromania Jul 2018 #4
Trumps core competency not dealmaking w powerful counter-parties. Its duping gullible victims - Frum Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #9
100% correct NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #20
He's always playing with someone e'se's money. His whole life. Mc Mike Jul 2018 #5
"callous and cruel and vindictive:" you're right. MBS Jul 2018 #6
The Reason Roy Rolling Jul 2018 #7
I wonder how soybean farmers feel... jcgoldie Jul 2018 #8
Wasn't that Baby Face Nelson's line of reasoning? mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2018 #11
'We're playing with the bank's money' Botany Jul 2018 #12
Trump is the Bernie Madoff of real estate. Lonestarblue Jul 2018 #13
Trump admits his policies are damaging the economy Renew Deal Jul 2018 #14
when it all comes crashing down, the trumpsters won't blame the idiot elmac Jul 2018 #15
Bank Money modrepub Jul 2018 #16
Even for him BeyondGeography Jul 2018 #17
Stock market is not the economy GusBob Jul 2018 #18
lol...he is going to make Nov 2018 so damn good for democrats to take back our country beachbum bob Jul 2018 #19
Trump is gambling, speculating with our currency in a high risk strategy bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #21
there was one irrationally upward month...then it dropped, now it is flat as a pancake. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 #22
Agree. Got my quarterly today. tavernier Jul 2018 #45
And he summarily drove his gambling casinos off a cliff Zambero Jul 2018 #23
"Trump Was the Dumbest Goddamn Student I Ever Had" dalton99a Jul 2018 #24
The con man is playing to his ego first and foremost. Trust Buster Jul 2018 #26
the Neo-economists around trump..... beachbum bob Jul 2018 #27
He doesn't know how the stock market works, does he? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #28
Don't worry. He has Kudlow to help him out. CrispyQ Jul 2018 #38
he is a profoundly stupid man.... dhill926 Jul 2018 #29
Doesn't he realize the average working people and poor people lives are not affected by the kimbutgar Jul 2018 #30
A lot of "average working people" are affected by the stock market, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #34
Most pension funds have a large percentage invested in stocks progree Jul 2018 #39
Nowadays pensions and 401ks are a luxury to have in jobs. kimbutgar Jul 2018 #41
32% of workers are saving in 401ks, 79% work for employers that offer them progree Jul 2018 #42
I don't think Trumpsky Harker Jul 2018 #31
Just when I thought Trump couldn't possibly be stupider . . . MrModerate Jul 2018 #32
Whaaaaa.... this ain't Monopoly, pal C_U_L8R Jul 2018 #33
Is putin behind trumps trade wars? duforsure Jul 2018 #35
Here's an interesting fact: George II Jul 2018 #36
Banks get bailed out...401Ks do not. Gamble w your own money dt. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #37
He does not have the first clue what the fuck he's talking about. Dave Starsky Jul 2018 #43
A trade war also keeps workers' wages from rising. So there is that. applegrove Jul 2018 #44
Thanks to Presidents Obama, Clinton and a good job GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #46
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