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BumRushDaShow

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8. The 60 was needed for one part (which they are doing now)
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 09:16 PM
Jul 2021

but the reconciliation piece will only need 51, where obviously the problem is getting all 50 Ds to sign on (and/or some combo of a few Rs to give them at least 50/50 with a Harris tie-breaker or 51+).

What they just did cloture on was an Infrastructure bill that passed the House at the beginning of the month. With them having announced some bipartisan "break-through" thing now, they may end up using that to tack on to the House bill as amendments or as a "substitute" and send it back to the House (since money bills have to originate in the House).

And no, the ACA didn't have 2 cloture votes - just the one after Dems passed Part 1 in December 2009, but then lost a special election seat in MA to Scott Brown, dropping them down to 59 Ds in the Senate. That meant they were forced to "fix" Pt. 1's additional funding/stipulations through reconciliation as a Pt. 2, and at that point, they only needed a simple majority (which they still had with all Rs voting against it).

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Still hard to believe ColinC Jul 2021 #1
It's just step 1 BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #3
I think 60 are needed to allow it come to a vote if that.procedural vote is not waved. karynnj Jul 2021 #6
The 60 was needed for one part (which they are doing now) BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #8
In 2009, there was a cloture vote to proceed to debate the ACA and later a cloture vote before karynnj Jul 2021 #9
I watched the hearings, the markups, the amendments, the debates, and all the votes BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #12
I also watched everything in 2009/2010 - probably more completely in the Senate than in the House karynnj Jul 2021 #17
I think we are still saying the same thing BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #18
I completely agree karynnj Jul 2021 #21
WE should take this and come back later The Mouth Jul 2021 #15
I don't want this thing to pass. I don't think the reTHUGS want it either but they really don't abqtommy Jul 2021 #2
1 trillion for 8 years is tRump change, what a disgrace, especially after handing wall street $10T n yaesu Jul 2021 #4
Isn't this dead in The House, OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2021 #5
There are 2 parts for they want to do and this was one of them, which already passed the House BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #7
I don't see Pelosi sitting on this bill for months after it passes the Senate. Calista241 Jul 2021 #10
if she get its passed we will never get sinema, manchin etc.. to sign on the reconciliation bill drray23 Jul 2021 #11
Reconciliation can only be done ONCE in a fiscal year BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #13
Good insight. Lasher Jul 2021 #16
She sounded pretty serious. OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2021 #14
Has NewsMax suggested this is evidence of Biden's tyrannical rule yet? Sapient Donkey Jul 2021 #19
SnoozeFux can go pound sand BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #20
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