Bipartisan infrastructure pact clears key Senate vote after breakthrough in talks

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18. I think we are still saying the same thing

but I have been emphasizing that at some point, a reconciliation bill needs to happen because to get closer to what the House wants than what this current bill is probably going to evolve into, would never get 60.

And regarding the ACA (or anything that requires money) - they will take a House bill that has already been passed and sent their way (whether directly related to the desired legislation or close to it), and if they don't plan to do a simple up or down vote on it without any changes, they will use that bill to amend, including even amending their own version of the bill to the House one "as a substitute", and then vote on it, and finally send it back to the House.

When they are doing that type of finagling, to save time, they try to work the Rules (through the Rules Committee) so that they can limit amendments and debate on the modified bill once it gets back to the House so they can reduce (or even eliminate) the back and forth stuff (when possible).

And don't forget one of the biggest jackasses prancing around from our side watering stuff down as Chair of the Senate Finance Committee - Max Baucus.