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93. For someone objecting to unsupported supposition, your post is suspiciously full of

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:37 AM

Sep 2021

Last edited Wed Sep 22, 2021, 11:17 AM - Edit history (1)

unsupported suppositions.

"[A]lmost certainly an effort to force more open debate about military aid to Israel"? A "discussion which is inevitably greeted with hollow claims of anti-semitism"? "Insinuations of evil progressive animus toward Israel"? "[T]he usual suspects line up behind the GOP"? "[A]ttack anyone who dares balk at the blank check policy"? How many unsupported suppositions can one fit into three sentences?

Regardless of intentions and outcomes, tell me that derailing the funding for the most effective defensive system to ptotect civilian population against massive terrorist assault is not bad optics for progressives!

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Progressive Democrats Succeed in Removing $1 Billion Iron Dome Funding From Bill [View all] George II Sep 2021 OP

It will probably be in DOD Black Budget hibbing Sep 2021 #1

I don't understand either manicdem Sep 2021 #2

As I Recently Posted In The Earlier Thread WHITT Sep 2021 #4

Link? empedocles Sep 2021 #7

Take Less Time To Quote Myself WHITT Sep 2021 #8

Please refresh me sarisataka Sep 2021 #24

Got Me By The Weenie WHITT Sep 2021 #25

I am looking for an objective fact sarisataka Sep 2021 #28

OK WHITT Sep 2021 #31

I don't need a calculator to estimate 43%. sarisataka Sep 2021 #33

facts are facts Slammer Sep 2021 #37

It is a common mistake sarisataka Sep 2021 #42

Non Sequitur WHITT Sep 2021 #38

Analogy sarisataka Sep 2021 #40

Because WHITT Sep 2021 #65

So maybe we are looking at it from the wrong direction sarisataka Sep 2021 #66

Is That Goal Post WHITT Sep 2021 #68

Haven't moved anything sarisataka Sep 2021 #69

Because It's A Non Sequitur WHITT Sep 2021 #71

. sarisataka Sep 2021 #72

Nope WHITT Sep 2021 #79

I find it strange sarisataka Sep 2021 #94

Unguided Rockets WHITT Sep 2021 #109

If I aim a rocket so it will land in a city, sarisataka Sep 2021 #112

Apparently WHITT Sep 2021 #114

Apparently you do not understand sarisataka Sep 2021 #120

Or Not WHITT Sep 2021 #124

Do you believe Palestinians are stupid sarisataka Sep 2021 #128

Yet Another Non Sequitur Dodge WHITT Sep 2021 #140

That word again. sarisataka Sep 2021 #147

Position the home-made Qasam rocket launcher in the general direction of Israel. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #134

Yikes WHITT Sep 2021 #139

Care to elaborate on how yo arrived at this brilliant conclusion? Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #144

Palestinian deaths OrangeJoe Sep 2021 #45

I believe there were zero Palestinian deaths sarisataka Sep 2021 #50

They weren't "bottle rockets", and how many Palestinian civilians will be killed if Israel can't.... George II Sep 2021 #105

Except WHITT Sep 2021 #111

Iron Dome does not try and intercept all missiles fired, just those that will land.. EX500rider Sep 2021 #103

So What? WHITT Sep 2021 #113

So what? Perhaps then $2B should be allocated to make it even better. George II Sep 2021 #118

Can't "Make It Even Better" WHITT Sep 2021 #121

In other words, increase it's capacity. Either that or get Hamas to stop..... George II Sep 2021 #122

Can't Increase Capacity WHITT Sep 2021 #125

Ummm... you seem to be certain that improvements to the system Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #123

Well WHITT Sep 2021 #126

What "admission" are you referring to? Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #129

More Ass Backwardness WHITT Sep 2021 #142

You keep making stuff up and declaring it to be true. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #146

"You keep making stuff up" WHITT Sep 2021 #148

I back every claim I make with citations from informed sources. You don't. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #149

... WHITT Sep 2021 #150

Basically all defensive systems can be overwhelmed EX500rider Sep 2021 #131

Much of the defense budget is disguised corporate welfare. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #11

AOC mentioned this today IcyPeas Sep 2021 #106

Intercepting 90% of the 4300 missiles fired from Gaza in 11 days is a failure? Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #13

But The 90% Claim Is Bullshit WHITT Sep 2021 #14

Are you telling me that the Palestinian press agency is full of shit? Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #19

People who hate Israel will always make things up Marius25 Sep 2021 #20

No country on earth OrangeJoe Sep 2021 #46

People are misusing the word "apartheid". What's going on there is NOT apartheid. George II Sep 2021 #55

Apparently not every Israeli shares that opinion TiberiusB Sep 2021 #73

Not every American thinks that Biden won. Does that mean he didn't? George II Sep 2021 #99

Holy crap, please tell me you can do better than that TiberiusB Sep 2021 #132

That group is far from being objective and unbiased. To quote you: George II Sep 2021 #138

Apparently not every Israeli favors Israel's existence either. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #135

I don't think apartheid means what you think it means Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #56

Dead Jews Good to anti-Semites The Mouth Sep 2021 #97

As You Posted WHITT Sep 2021 #26

Your opinion notwithstanding, the Palestinian press agency Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #35

Wasn't Expressing An "Opinion" WHITT Sep 2021 #36

Then you should have no problem backing whatever you were expressing with facts. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #39

Sure WHITT Sep 2021 #70

You are supposed to cite sources that support your point, not debunk it. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #96

I've Already Established WHITT Sep 2021 #115

No you did not. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #119

Sorry WHITT Sep 2021 #127

You ought to be sorry. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #130

Defense Against Drivel? WHITT Sep 2021 #141

Defense OF drivel Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #143

Are you averse to supporting your own arguments with objective sources and data? LanternWaste Sep 2021 #107

YAWN WHITT Sep 2021 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author aggiesal Sep 2021 #44

That isn't what happened TiberiusB Sep 2021 #74

The article you cited is from 2019, not 2021 Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #81

Here's an article from 2021 TiberiusB Sep 2021 #98

The ceasefire took effect on 5/14. The article you cited reports on rockets fired as of 5/11 Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #101

It's not a failing system. Marius25 Sep 2021 #17

Apparently Not WHITT Sep 2021 #27

The 43% number may be accurate but also misleading. Calista241 Sep 2021 #58

That's Just It WHITT Sep 2021 #67

I'm glad they didn't mention apartheid PerceptionManagement Sep 2021 #3

If it "saved countless lives" why won't Israel pay for it? Is there some reason Isreal can't PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #5

my thought too /nt sdfernando Sep 2021 #9

Israel can't afford to fund it themselves Marius25 Sep 2021 #18

Their defense budget is $ 17.8 billion. They really couldn't afford a 5.6% increase PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #22

Why can't they afford it themselves? Sapient Donkey Sep 2021 #62

But they CAN afford healthcare for all their citizens. Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #153

Good question. Why is it our responsibility to fund this? NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #30

It is not our responsibility. It is in our strategic interest. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #43

Can you elaborate on how Israel paying for this themselves will help Iran expand Sapient Donkey Sep 2021 #63

Fair question. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #64

Thank you for your response Sapient Donkey Sep 2021 #76

The considerations for military aid to Israel go beyond pure number crunching. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #83

Yes - they are spending their money on illegal settlements. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #60

Apparently, it means jack shit to Israel, but it's really bad optics for Progressives. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #6

Best be careful sarisataka Sep 2021 #23

Like unsupported suppositions about Democratic lawmakers? TiberiusB Sep 2021 #77

If we wish to discuss military aid sarisataka Sep 2021 #92

For someone objecting to unsupported supposition, your post is suspiciously full of Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #93

It didn't derail it, that's the point TiberiusB Sep 2021 #100

Let me rephrase: Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #102

There are alternatives moneys that Israel can use. And there are alternative news sources Tetrachloride Sep 2021 #10

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Yep WHITT Sep 2021 #15

Or perhaps it alloows them to develop an internationally acclaimed Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #21

Housing OrangeJoe Sep 2021 #47

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Post removed Post removed Sep 2021 #34

I object to the funding because this should be a matter of the people in Israel taxing themselves Politicub Sep 2021 #29

Do you also object to Iran funding Hezbollah and Hamas? Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #41

Funding Hezbollah OrangeJoe Sep 2021 #48

Very commendable. A man of principle. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #52

What are you going on about? Politicub Sep 2021 #51

Temper, temper! Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #53

Glad you've found that shaming is effective for you. Politicub Sep 2021 #54

I appreciate the invitation, but permit me to decline it. Beastly Boy Sep 2021 #57

+1 Polticlub Devil Child Sep 2021 #86

They may get that money from us through other routes, but the statement has been made. NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #32

Sounds like a recipe for more dead Palestinians Jose Garcia Sep 2021 #49

Glad to hear it. Let Israel take it out of their "settlements" budget. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #59

I would like to know why Israel can't fund it for itself. Sapient Donkey Sep 2021 #61

...the country with the highest rates of poverty ... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #84

Incisive. TY empedocles Sep 2021 #89

very corbynesque of them JI7 Sep 2021 #75

yup! best comment! Behind the Aegis Sep 2021 #78

Big thank you to Reps. AOC, Omar, Tlaib, Pressley, and Jayapal! Devil Child Sep 2021 #80

So Israel can't afford it? Historic NY Sep 2021 #82

Last year we gave $1.5B each to Jordan and Egypt. Might we see that removed too? George II Sep 2021 #90

Absolutley! Devil Child Sep 2021 #91

Meh. Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #85

I'll kick in a Bah to your Meh. Devil Child Sep 2021 #87

I'll add a dog-walk in the Brambles too. It's fun to advertise dismissiveness... LanternWaste Sep 2021 #108

I think you have fun replying to me Devil Child Sep 2021 #110

The Speaker does not need this stuff to deal with. All the parties know what it is empedocles Sep 2021 #88

I don't mind funding it if we get some of the technology Steelrolled Sep 2021 #95

These are a couple pictures I was allowed to take on my last trip to Israel. former9thward Sep 2021 #104

Why anyone would vote against defensive equipment to protect civilians from incoming rockets is JohnSJ Sep 2021 #145

I guess they feel they have to level the playing field ripcord Sep 2021 #117

It will be passed on it's own. Action_Patrol Sep 2021 #133

The House overwhelmingly passes the #IronDome bill LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #136

Yes, and two Congressmen inexplicably voted "Present".... George II Sep 2021 #137

I think it's already funded until 2026 or something agincourt Sep 2021 #151

As far as I could see, funding was only through 2020, this appears to be to replenish the missiles: George II Sep 2021 #152