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In reply to the discussion: Putin blocking hundreds of ships filled with wheat in the Black Sea: Von der Leyen [View all]ancianita
(36,060 posts)35. Three NATO countries have coasts on the Black Sea, which is considered International Water.
Last edited Thu Mar 24, 2022, 07:30 PM - Edit history (1)
It's not as if defending against Russia's blockade is solely the US's responsibility. The US and other navies often conduct "freedom of navigation" monitoring on all the oceans and seas.
Not for nothing, Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey have navies, with at least 23 frigates, 23 corvettes and at least 15 submarines.
It looks like, since 2014, Russia has justified its aggressions on the Black Sea by claiming the US and Ukraine provocation.
The British warship was conducting a freedom-of-navigation exercise when it was harassed by Russian forces.
Lt. Cmdr. Matthew Comer, a spokesman for U.S. Sixth Fleet, would not comment on the incident. Regarding the rules and norms of warships sailing in the Black Sea, Comer said in an email that the U.S. Navy always operates in accordance with international law and customs and expects others to operate in the same manner.
The incident happened just days before the start of the annual Sea Breeze 2021 maritime exercise in the Black Sea, co-hosted by the United States and Ukraine. The exercise is meant to improve interoperability and capability among the 32 participating countries, including several Black Sea states, according to a Navy statement. Its also about deterrence [US Army General Ben] Hodges
The whole point is to not only improve capability but to demonstrate that the Black Sea is international water. It is not Russia's lake, its nobody's lake, it's international water. But you have to enforce that, he said.
Russia will most likely send vessels and aircraft to approach or shadow the exercising forces, Hodges said, but he does not expect them to fire warning shots because there will be European nations participating that they would rather not antagonize.
Yet Wednesdays incident might not be the end of the summers aggressive Russian behavior. The troops, ships, and equipment that they had near the Ukrainian border in April are still in the region, Hodges said, and they may be look for an opening to provoke Ukraine.
I think that their reaction yesterday demonstrates a willingness to escalate more quickly than is necessary, he said. The Russians will stop only when they are stopped They only respect strength and they despise weakness.
Lt. Cmdr. Matthew Comer, a spokesman for U.S. Sixth Fleet, would not comment on the incident. Regarding the rules and norms of warships sailing in the Black Sea, Comer said in an email that the U.S. Navy always operates in accordance with international law and customs and expects others to operate in the same manner.
The incident happened just days before the start of the annual Sea Breeze 2021 maritime exercise in the Black Sea, co-hosted by the United States and Ukraine. The exercise is meant to improve interoperability and capability among the 32 participating countries, including several Black Sea states, according to a Navy statement. Its also about deterrence [US Army General Ben] Hodges
The whole point is to not only improve capability but to demonstrate that the Black Sea is international water. It is not Russia's lake, its nobody's lake, it's international water. But you have to enforce that, he said.
Russia will most likely send vessels and aircraft to approach or shadow the exercising forces, Hodges said, but he does not expect them to fire warning shots because there will be European nations participating that they would rather not antagonize.
Yet Wednesdays incident might not be the end of the summers aggressive Russian behavior. The troops, ships, and equipment that they had near the Ukrainian border in April are still in the region, Hodges said, and they may be look for an opening to provoke Ukraine.
I think that their reaction yesterday demonstrates a willingness to escalate more quickly than is necessary, he said. The Russians will stop only when they are stopped They only respect strength and they despise weakness.
https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2021/06/black-sea-incident-shows-russias-determination-claim-waters-illegally/174959/
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Putin blocking hundreds of ships filled with wheat in the Black Sea: Von der Leyen [View all]
left-of-center2012
Mar 2022
OP
The barbarism knows no end. What's next? It's coming unless we intervene or he is deposed.
Evolve Dammit
Mar 2022
#2
Putin's global pro-COVID propaganda campaign, amplified by Trump/Repukes, IS bioterrorism.
lagomorph777
Mar 2022
#29
OK, this seems to come from ships being unwilling to leave port, after early damage by Russia
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2022
#8
Oh, is that why I saw a small box of crackers at the grocery for just under $10.00?
Jetheels
Mar 2022
#14
Absolutely. Or at least give the Ukrainians big enough missiles to do the job themselves.
lagomorph777
Mar 2022
#30
Putin doubles down from being a proven war criminal to committing a crime against humanity.
ancianita
Mar 2022
#20
For the world to see, Putin will have the wheat dumped in the ocean before he releases those ships.
ancianita
Mar 2022
#33
Three NATO countries have coasts on the Black Sea, which is considered International Water.
ancianita
Mar 2022
#35