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SomewhereInTheMiddle

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23. A second opinion ...

Fri May 13, 2022, 01:51 PM

May 2022

Having lived in Finland, I am excited by the prospect of them joining NATO. I am also fond of Sweden, a country I have spent time in, and would like to see them onboard.

But trading them for Turkey is problematic from both military and diplomatic points of view.

Turkey’s location is almost essential for launching and supporting operations in the Middle East, North Africa, the easter Med, and Southwest Asia.

There is also the political appearance of the Western Alliance kicking out a long-time Muslim ally in favor of two new white countries. Not a great look.

I don’t support Erdogan’s political tactics or philosophy. But ousting Turkey might cause more trouble than it is worth.

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Erdogan says Turkey not supportive of Finland, Sweden joining NATO [View all] 867-5309. May 2022 OP

Disingenuous. One could make that claim for at least a dozen present NATO nations. no_hypocrisy May 2022 #1

He's scared of Russia / likes Putin's governing style -- his objections end there EOM rlegro May 2022 #2

Not really. appmanga May 2022 #12

It's Turkeys opportunity to get a lot. David__77 May 2022 #3

Ding ding Chicken Dinner Lithos May 2022 #4

Tayyip Manchin Cheezoholic May 2022 #11

+100 n/t Tom Yossarian Joad May 2022 #30

Then cancel the jets that the President just approved for Turkey JohnSJ May 2022 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete May 2022 #18

Turkey's geographic location is too important. Martin68 May 2022 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete May 2022 #31

There is a lot for Turkey to be part of NATO melm00se May 2022 #33

I used to play Diplomacy and Risk. Funny how they sensitize you to the countries that have Martin68 May 2022 #34

When I taught history melm00se May 2022 #40

Nice! Thanks for sharing. Martin68 May 2022 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 May 2022 #6

They need unanimous support from all existing members to join. nt ripcord May 2022 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 May 2022 #8

No. Igel May 2022 #28

The true irony is there wax a lot of European pushback against Turkey's NATO membership because of Martin68 May 2022 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete May 2022 #19

A second opinion ... SomewhereInTheMiddle May 2022 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete May 2022 #32

But If they act in ways to give aid to russia and harm NATO quakerboy May 2022 #37

What does Erdogan want? Archetypist May 2022 #9

That's inferencing from Erdogan's position. Igel May 2022 #29

Agree Archetypist May 2022 #36

Fuck Turkey, the two-faced double dealing "ally." ancianita May 2022 #10

+1 n/t Hiawatha Pete May 2022 #20

+2 Faygo Kid May 2022 #26

Tayyip wants a little sumthin sumthin to let this happen. Thomas Hurt May 2022 #13

Has he looked in his back yard lately? 2Gingersnaps May 2022 #14

We just came home from a trip to Turkey (Egypt and Greece too - it was wonderful) leftieNanner May 2022 #15

Keep in mind, you were likely in the less provincial locations. Lucky Luciano May 2022 #22

I figured not all NATO countries would vote them in. marie999 May 2022 #16

Turkey has been denied Article 5 help from NATO ... TomWilm May 2022 #17

K & R keeping eye on N/T w0nderer May 2022 #21

Turkey is home to many terrorist organizations. Martin68 May 2022 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #27

K&R BlueWavePsych May 2022 #38

Who's dumb idea was it to let Turkey into NATO? Polybius May 2022 #39

Finland and Sweden are practically already default members. Xolodno May 2022 #41

well isn't that special Skittles May 2022 #43