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129. The problem with Trump's reaction to the Hunter Biden pardon

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Mon Dec 2, 2024, 01:07 PM

Dec 2

There's a legitimate controversy surrounding Joe Biden's pardon for Hunter Biden, but given his scandalous record, Donald Trump ought to sit this one out.

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The problem with Trump’s reaction to the Hunter Biden pardon - MSNBC: Biden has done what any other father would do.. it’s his son,Trump on the other hand stated he would pardon the criminals that supported his insurrection efforts. Huge difference.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/problem-trumps-reaction-hunter-biden-pardon-rcna182413

President Joe Biden’s son Hunter was facing the possibility of a prison sentence on federal gun charges and federal tax evasion charges. Thanks to a presidential pardon, the defendant no longer has anything to worry about. My MSNBC colleague Hayley Miller explained:

President Joe Biden on Sunday issued a “full and unconditional” pardon for his son Hunter Biden, who has been dogged by Republican attacks for years. ... The pardon is expected to cover both his gun charges and his tax charges, reported NBC News, the first outlet to report on the decision. It covers any offenses the 54-year-old “has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024.”

There’s no shortage of angles to a story like this one, but broadly speaking, there are two sides to the story. On the one hand, there’s the outgoing president, who argued that his adult son wouldn’t even have been prosecuted if his last name weren’t Biden. The pardon, by this reasoning, is about advancing the cause of justice and righting a prosecutorial wrong......

The one person, however, who should sit this one out, is Donald Trump, who apparently couldn’t help himself.

Shortly after the White House announced the pardon for the incumbent president’s son, the Republican president-elect published an item to his social media platform that read, “Does the Pardon given by Joe to Hunter include the J-6 Hostages, who have now been imprisoned for years? Such an abuse and miscarriage of Justice!”

First, Jan. 6 criminals are not “hostages.”

Second, if we’re going to talk about pardons, abuses and miscarriages of justice, Trump might not like where the conversation ends up.

Indeed, by any fair measure, Trump’s record on pardons is arguably the worst in American history. During his first term, he effectively wielded his pardon power as a corrupt weapon, rewarding loyalists, completing cover-ups, undermining federal law enforcement, and doling out perverse favors to the politically connected.

Trump’s list of scandalous pardon abuses is so long, it could be a lengthy book. The names should be familiar: Paul Manafort. Michael Flynn. Steve Bannon. Roger Stone. Seven different Republican members of Congress who were locked up for corruption crimes.

Trump saw presidential pardons as get-out-of-jail-free cards for his friends and associates, engaging in the kind of brazen corruption that would’ve defined his term were it not eclipsed by other breathtaking scandals.

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President Biden pardons his son Hunter Biden [View all] LetMyPeopleVote Dec 1 OP

Well, good. 3catwoman3 Dec 1 #1

Glad to hear it! nt calikid Dec 1 #2

Best news I have heard in a long time cyndensco Dec 1 #3

Good. Can't leave Hunter to the Maralago wolves. ZonkerHarris Dec 1 #4

Exactly this. The wolves are at the door and coming for us all...Biden has the power to do so just like Trump NotHardly Dec 1 #53

DEFINITELY. calimary Dec 1 #75

BREAKING: Biden pardons Hunter LetMyPeopleVote Dec 1 #5

I'm very glad to see this. RandomNumbers Dec 1 #8

Effectively taking retaliation off of the marmalade shartcannon's table Brother Buzz Dec 1 #6

it's amazing how quickly the doj moved to convict the president's son. ecstatic Dec 1 #7

The 45-packed SCOTUS wouldn't let 45 GO TO TRIAL BumRushDaShow Dec 1 #14

AP BumRushDaShow Dec 1 #9

They are insufferable mcar Dec 1 #21

The media gave up its right to challenge anything morally this past summer. Biophilic Dec 1 #33

Yeah Blind to their fucking Hypocrisy. Cha Dec 1 #68

Piss on them! Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 1 #80

Fantastic news!! Talitha Dec 1 #10

From WhiteHouse.gov BumRushDaShow Dec 1 #11

Good Red Mountain Dec 1 #12

Post removed Post removed Dec 1 #13

Respectfully disagree NNguyenMD Dec 1 #19

Hahahahahahaha... tavernier Dec 1 #38

It is a power that is given to a President BumRushDaShow Dec 1 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author HereForTheParty Dec 1 #25

This isn't a both sides issue. markodochartaigh Dec 1 #30

Hows the high ground working for you election wise? ForgoTheConsequence Dec 1 #34

Did you actually follow that case BumRushDaShow Dec 1 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author HereForTheParty Dec 1 #69

Oh, for Pete's sake!!! ShazzieB Dec 1 #96

WRONG!!! Joe accepted the conviction/plea bargain. SunSeeker Dec 2 #110

I'm reading your multiple posts, but you don't seem to have read Hunter being hunted. It would never end. Hekate Dec 2 #114

I don't think you understand BumRushDaShow Dec 2 #118

Self deleted, but won't be forgotten Hekate Dec 2 #132

No this was not Joe's "own DOJ." Republican David Weiss was assigned to prosecute Hunter in 2018. SunSeeker Dec 2 #104

I disagree. TomSlick Dec 1 #23

Big Loud Fart Noise NBachers Dec 1 #35

LOL! JoseBalow Dec 2 #111

The President has EVERY right to do this, and all presidents do. TheBadWolf Dec 1 #39

This is very good, actually. Mr. Evil Dec 1 #41

YES & PRes Biden Knows This & So Do Most Dems! Cha Dec 1 #85

So his own father should let him be the child rapists pawn instead? onecaliberal Dec 1 #42

That's what would have happened BOSSHOG Dec 1 #47

Oh stop. If you can't see the difference between the parties.... Think. Again. Dec 1 #49

The country no longer has a moral compass... Blasphemer Dec 1 #61

The country no longer has a moral compass... markie Dec 2 #117

Oh hell NO.. it's doesn't make it "Difficult" At ALL. NOT Cha Dec 1 #70

It's great Prairie Gates Dec 1 #72

I felt the same way when I fought back against a mugger Orrex Dec 1 #76

Hunter was about to be sent to jail for something nobody is ever even charged for. SunSeeker Dec 1 #86

unrecommend Captain Zero Dec 1 #97

I understand your feelings but jgmiller Dec 2 #99

Yikes claudette Dec 2 #108

I agree it's not good. It's fucking GREAT!!! truthisfreedom Dec 2 #112

Here is the full pardon LetMyPeopleVote Dec 1 #15

I'm so happy to see this! mcar Dec 1 #16

Who Trump had pardoned of a vicious crime! SunSeeker Dec 1 #77

It's been clear to me since the election that there was no alternative. greatauntoftriplets Dec 1 #17

We earned this GOOD NEWS!! bluestarone Dec 1 #18

Hunter Biden just released a statement after being pardoned by President Joe Biden LetMyPeopleVote Dec 1 #22

Fantastic statement. Pinback Dec 1 #66

Mahalo for Hunter's Statement, LMPV! Cha Dec 1 #89

I'm taking this as a positive sign that Biden MIGHT be considering some other bold/surprising actions before... Karasu Dec 1 #24

Excellent decision Mr President. milestogo Dec 1 #26

I am happy to see this pardon - TBF Dec 1 #27

Something! cilla4progress Dec 1 #28

This is not corruption. Think. Again. Dec 1 #50

It's Not "corruption". nt Cha Dec 1 #90

GOOD! nt Susan Calvin Dec 1 #29

I'm very glad to see this, markodochartaigh Dec 1 #31

FUCK you Trump!! aeromanKC Dec 1 #32

I'm no fan of Hunter, but good for Biden. Beacool Dec 1 #36

I am glad Joe did this... rogerballard Dec 1 #37

I'm so thankful! Hope22 Dec 1 #40

Excellent!!!!! tavernier Dec 1 #44

Good........ Lovie777 Dec 1 #45

I have mixed feelings about this LogDog75 Dec 1 #46

Bravo! SallyHemmings Dec 1 #48

Here is Hunter Biden's Declaration to the Court in California that he has formally accepted pardon LetMyPeopleVote Dec 1 #51

And, TY for this, too! Cha Dec 1 #91

Now, He Needs OhioTim Dec 1 #52

Good for Pres. Biden montanacowboy Dec 1 #54

very good news and sets to right a grievous wrong cadoman Dec 1 #55

Fantastic! Mrsfiddlegirl Dec 1 #56

Glad to hear Nululu Dec 1 #57

Jasmine Crockett just called out the hypocrisy of individuals pearl clutching over President Biden's pardoning of Hunter LetMyPeopleVote Dec 1 #58

Finally We Get Some Good News.. Go Jasmine! TY Cha Dec 1 #92

As the Far Right attempts to dismantle the rule of law in the US... AntiFascist Dec 1 #59

The only good news I've seen since Nov 5th. nt yaesu Dec 1 #60

Great! question everything Dec 1 #62

"Don't Fuck with a Biden" n/t MichMan Dec 1 #63

Don't YOU forget it! RandiFan1290 Dec 2 #119

Awesome liberalmediaaddict Dec 1 #64

Good, I was hoping this would happen. Hunter was used as a political football. diane in sf Dec 1 #65

He should fire Merrick and release a press statement about that too. n/t D23MIURG23 Dec 1 #67

GOOOOOOOOOD. Now for 1,000 preemptive pardons, too. Prairie Gates Dec 1 #71

I totally approve!! tonekat Dec 1 #73

Good! ellie Dec 1 #74

GOOD!!! And may the MAGGOT heads EXPLODE like over-ripe PIMPLES !!!!!!! Jack Valentino Dec 1 #78

I Would Rather He Went to Bat For The American People DrFunkenstein Dec 1 #79

Oh please claudette Dec 2 #107

LOL...are you serious? Biden needs to do something and go to bat for Americans?? Bengus81 Dec 2 #123

But he forgot to say "FUCK YOU, MAGA !!!" Jack Valentino Dec 1 #81

I't's Understood.. Cha Dec 1 #93

I'm glad he did it. COL Mustard Dec 1 #82

Gnashing and wailing Godot51 Dec 1 #83

And from pearl-clutchers generally Hekate Dec 2 #116

Excellent. AllyCat Dec 1 #84

Thank the gods! PortTack Dec 1 #87

Good news. I am 100% in favor of this. lees1975 Dec 1 #94

Its about time MFM008 Dec 1 #95

I'm really glad. NH Ethylene Dec 2 #98

Former Watergate Prosecutor Jill Wine-Banks explains why pardon was appropriate LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2 #100

Awesome Go on tour denouncing the maga deepstate Hassler Dec 2 #101

And, of course, all the smarmy contrarians who were whisper quiet during Trump's presidency, gemini_liberal Dec 2 #102

HOORAY!!!!! KT2000 Dec 2 #103

Good and just. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2 #105

Great news!! claudette Dec 2 #106

God bless you, Joe LSparkle Dec 2 #109

The Republicans will use this to justify Trump pardoning himself I bet but the difference is Hunter deserved the pardon. cstanleytech Dec 2 #113

Hunter wasn't the POTUS,wee bit of difference there. Bengus81 Dec 2 #122

Yes, I know that but do you really think he won't at least try? cstanleytech Dec 2 #127

💕💕Joe Biden -- God bless him forever💕💕 Hekate Dec 2 #115

" raw politics has infected this process and it led to a miscarriage of justice" onetexan Dec 2 #120

Barbara McQade likes this pardon LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2 #121

We should start a petition... Dem4life1970 Dec 2 #124

Such great news!!! wordstroken Dec 2 #125

When the President of the United States tells you the legal system is essentially broken John Shaft Dec 2 #126

Good! City Lights Dec 2 #128

The problem with Trump's reaction to the Hunter Biden pardon LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2 #129

A little republican hypocrisy ? republianmushroom Dec 2 #130

Screw anyone who doesn't like it! ECL213 Dec 2 #131

Good endless summer Dec 2 #133

Forget about the fact that Hunter would have been persecuted for a minute and let's assume this scenario tornado34jh Dec 2 #134