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In reply to the discussion: Trump instructs Treasury to halt penny production [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(167,462 posts)30. MaddowBlog-Trump's pennies order adds to list of legally dubious power grabs
Even if Trump's position on pennies has merit, what matters most is his willingness to make unilateral policy declarations outside of his authority.
2/ âTrumpâs pennies order adds to list of legally dubious power grabs
— @GottaLaff (@gottalaff.bsky.social) 2025-02-10T14:54:15.919Z
Even if Trump's position on pennies has merit, what matters most is his willingness to make unilateral policy declarations outside of his authority.â
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When Donald Trump swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, perhaps he brushed past this detail. The Associated Press reported:
President Donald Trump says he has directed the Treasury Department to stop minting new pennies, citing the rising cost of producing the one-cent coin. ... Trump had not discussed his desire to eliminate the penny during his campaign. But Elon Musks so-called Department of Government Efficiency raised the prospect in a post on X last month highlighting the pennys cost.
As the Republican left New Orleans after watching the first half of the Super Bowl, he wrote to his social media platform, For far too long the United States has minted pennies which literally cost us more than 2 cents. This is so wasteful! I have instructed my Secretary of the US Treasury to stop producing new pennies. Lets rip the waste out of our great nations [sic] budget, even if its a penny at a time.......
But whether one supports or opposes sticking with the penny is separate from the question of governmental power. Penny critics have spent recent years pressing lawmakers on this for the most obvious of reasons: Its up to Congress to make decisions about U.S. currencies.
Even if Trumps underlying position has merit and it very well might what arguably matters most in a situation like this isnt about pennies, as much as its about the president unilaterally making a policy declaration outside of his authority.
In other words, presidential power-grabs matter, even if theyre in pursuit of worthwhile policy goals.
A New York magazine report added, Like so many other things Trump has said or tried to do since retaking office, its not clear if he can legally [order the Treasury to stop making pennies]. It would probably require an act of Congress to fully discontinue the coin, since Congress dictates Americas currency specifications. But as with so many other things, Trump may just try to do it anyway.
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obsolescence of the penny, just one of the many advantages of the coming runaway inflation.
uncle ray
Feb 2025
#3
Most countries in Europe rarely used anything below 5 cents, even in countries that don't use the Euro
tornado34jh
Feb 2025
#6
When I was stationed in Germany (1979-1981) the US stopped shipping pennies over.
SeattleVet
Feb 2025
#8
Eric and Jared were seen robbing change sorting machines prior to the run on pennies coming
usonian
Feb 2025
#10
I'm sure if they put his face on it he would want them to make nothing but pennies
jgmiller
Feb 2025
#11
I learned stuff like that from having a second grade teacher who was a civil rights firebrand.
Hugin
Feb 2025
#39
Well, just make it out of cheaper material then. But we need pennies for accurate payment and change.
SunSeeker
Feb 2025
#21
1) If the penny had Ronald Reagan on it, I bet Trumpf wouldn't have proposed this; 2) Felon Musk must want the metals.
C0RI0LANUS
Feb 2025
#22
MaddowBlog-Trump's pennies order adds to list of legally dubious power grabs
LetMyPeopleVote
Feb 2025
#30
He continues to proceed as if there is no "Article I" of the Constitution, only Article II
BumRushDaShow
Feb 2025
#33