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MADem

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6. I saw how it played out in Iran in 79. Meet the new boss, worse than the old boss.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:49 AM
Dec 2012

There was a cadre of people in the streets who were deliriously hopeful back then, too. They're living in London, TX, Los Angeles, and NYC now...

It's not a question of the place "becoming Berkeley." It's a question of ensuring VERY basic rights for female citizens and religious minorities, as well as ensuring that the "beatings will not resume" with impunity. It's just not cool to 'trade away' the rights of half of the citizenry in exchange for...what? A pig in a poke? A surfeit of happiness for fundamentalists who like to control and abuse women and limit their freedoms?

The assaults against women have been happening ever since they put Hosni in the pokey--and I predict it will get worse, not better. I'm not alone, either. BTDT, bought the tee shirt--it sucks to see half a population repressed like that, using religion as a cudgel.

CIVIL RIGHTS
A slap in the face for Egypt's women


Nihad Abu El Konsam voted against it. "This constitution will set Egypt 100 years back," she said. The fact that the constitution's is based primarily on Sharia law is not the problem. "The fundamental principles of Sharia law are equality and human dignity - the same principles all religion," said Nihad Abu El Konsam....the constitution is extremely imprecise. It leaves an "open door," Abu El Konsam believes, for extreme fundamentalist interpretation and discrimination against women and other Egyptian citizens.
'Every citizen is equal' isn't enough
Nor does the Muslim Brotherhood's assertion of citizen "equality" within the constitution give solace to the women's right activist. In her office, she pulls out a stack of case-files. The same 'equal rights' constitutional article, Abu El Konsam says, has been in the Egyptian constitution since 1971.
"And yet since that time, for 40 years now, women have suffered discrimination in all areas. Even today we don't have female judges in Egypt holding the same high-level positions as men. Women aren't even allowed into some industries. There's discrimination in income levels and education. Unemployment levels are four times higher for women than for men. We don't even have a law against abuse in the household. When we do go to court, the offender is acquitted."
The lawyer believes that the Islamists have "tailored" the constitution to meet their own demands. She also worries that genital mutilation of young girls and women could once more be legalized, that the age of marital consent might be dropped to nine or 11 years of age, or the right to divorce once more thrown into question.

http://www.dw.de/a-slap-in-the-face-for-egypts-women/a-16459115

This shit is just not "OK" and it's not a question of "self-determination"--it's abusive and wrong.

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Right on! Coyotl Dec 2012 #1
This sucks--totally. MADem Dec 2012 #2
It probably neither sucks totally nor is the most desirable constitution ever. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #3
If you are a female or a Coptic Xtian it sucks. Totally. nt MADem Dec 2012 #4
We'll see how it plays out. Egypt doesn't become Berkeley overnight. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #5
I saw how it played out in Iran in 79. Meet the new boss, worse than the old boss. MADem Dec 2012 #6
+1. The LGBT community is also now in a terrible position nt riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #7
Anyone who is an "other" is pretty much screwed. MADem Dec 2012 #8
Nothing would be better if Mubarak has stayed in power. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #10
Who--save you--is postulating a strawman scenario where Mubarak stays in power? nt MADem Dec 2012 #12
That is what all this "Egypt is a dead loss" rhetoric is about. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #13
I am one of those "people" and I am not saying what you're claiming at all. MADem Dec 2012 #15
I agree that the people wanted something else in Iran. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #17
It's been over 3 decades. How long must we wait? That's the question. MADem Dec 2012 #18
Fine, guarantee the rights... Ken Burch Dec 2012 #9
Who's suggesting that this is "America's job?" MADem Dec 2012 #11
We need to stand with "the Other"-but not to sound arrogant while doing so. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #14
It shouldn't be just "The West." It should be every SOB in the world MADem Dec 2012 #16
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