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9. The complete email I got, with my commentary
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:26 PM
Jul 4
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143490887#post6

It makes it sound like there is a big cut in income taxes on Social Security benefits,
PLUS "Additionally, it provides an enhanced deduction for taxpayers aged 65 and older, "

i.e. a two-fer.
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In https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143490887#post8

there is a Forbes article which purports to explain it all, but is totally confusing.

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Key questions --

Does the money come out of the Social Security system? #8 kind of says partly. Anyway, it doesn't help seniors for very long if the SS Trust Fund runs out sooner, which, unless Congress acts, will mean an automatic cut in benefits.

If it's a deduction, is it an "above the line" deduction which means you get the deduction even if you take the standard deduction

Or a regular "below the line" deduction, that along with other such deductions, must in total exceed the standard deduction threshold in order to benefit you taxwise (otherwise you are just better off taking the standard deduction as 90% IIRC of filers do).

Is it a deduction or a tax credit?

#6 (the SSA letter) and #7 say its a deduction, while #8 says its a tax credit. Very different.
(If it's a tax credit, is it what they call "refundable", meaning that even if your income tax overall is zero or gets reduced to zero by the credit, you still get the remaining credit mailed to you as a check or deposit, i.e. like a negative income tax.)

Or non-refundable, meaning if your overall income tax is zero or get reduced to zero by the credit, then that's it, you get no further benefit from it.

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This administration is cruel........................ Lovie777 Jul 4 #1
Propaganda? Disinformation? False optimism? Norrrm Jul 4 #2
Propaganda...get used to it ramapo Jul 4 #3
My spouse got it and forwarded to me.... reACTIONary Jul 4 #5
If you're lucky, the deduction gets you about $1k off your total tax bill. 3Hotdogs Jul 4 #4
I might have gotten that email but... llmart Jul 4 #6
I got that email, and promptly deleted it DinahMoeHum Jul 4 #7
So did I Wolf Frankula Jul 5 #10
It's a gift to the more "well off" seniors. Those that live purely on their SS checks mostly won't be phased either way Cheezoholic Jul 4 #8
Exactly. Lift the cap on SS taxes! Make the rich pay the same SS tax rate as the poor! SunSeeker Jul 5 #12
The complete email I got, with my commentary progree Jul 4 #9
GoBankingRates has an explanation -- based on a MAY 22 CBS article before the Senate came up progree Jul 5 #18
"...to push blatant misinformation........" AZ8theist Jul 5 #11
It went to my Junk folder BWdem4life Jul 5 #13
Yep, me too not fooled Jul 5 #14
Yeah, I got that one. malthaussen Jul 5 #15
Fed-State voteragain Jul 5 #16
FYI: I already don't pay taxes on my SS. None JohnnyRingo Jul 5 #17
The SS limit in 2025 is $32,000 for joint filers. But when filing you have a $30K standard deduction Bengus81 Jul 5 #19
I got that email and wrote a scathing response. Which was returned with the message, "Please do not reply, this email Martin68 Jul 5 #20
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