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summer_in_TX

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11. I can see why many are calling the NYT latest "bombshell" about Mamdani a hit piece.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 12:47 AM
Jul 6

Mamdani Once Claimed to Be Asian and African American. Should It Matter? - The New York Times, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/04/nyregion/mamdani-college-black-reaction.html

The data itself came from a hacked college admissions archive, leaked over a decade ago. The source goes by Cremieux Recueil online, and is followed by Elon Musk who has retweeted his posts on X. He wrote and article titled "Elites are genetically different" for a pro-eugenics Substack outlet named Aporia.

He has a history of opposing race-based admissions, and apparently believes that Mamdani was trying to get a seat set aside for an African-American through a quota. Mamdani was not admitted to Columbia, even though his father is a professor there.

A Guardian investigation points to his identity being Jordan Lasker, a grad student whose writings are about "race science" and is a pro-natalist. He spoke at a pro-natalist conference at the University of Texas under his Cremieux alias in March. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/03/natal-conference-austin-texas-eugenics

It is certainly ODD that the New York Times did not provide that information to readers in their article on Zohran Mamdani and his checking boxes including South Asian and African-American both, and writing Uganda beside the latter as a 17-year-old applying for colleges. Here's all they said about the source:

Mr. Mamdani’s answers on the Columbia application were included in data obtained through an internal data hack of Columbia University that was shared with The Times, and then confirmed by Mr. Mamdani. The cyberattack was apparently carried out by an opponent of affirmative action, who was attempting to determine if Columbia was still using race-conscious policies after the Supreme Court effectively banned the practice in 2023.


Looking at the article, it strikes me how many times NYT quotes people framing that as negative.
• "two [rivals] suggesting potential fraud and calling for further investigation.:
• "Right-wing pundits call Mr. Mamdani a liar"
• "a spokesman for the Adams campaign, said that Mr. Mamdani had “misrepresented his racial identity to gain admission to Columbia University,” adding: “This is not just dishonest — it’s possibly fraudulent. It may have taken a place away from a qualified African American applicant and misused a process designed to correct real, systemic inequities.”
•"Mr. Cuomo’s campaign said that Mr. Mamdani’s Columbia application raised questions as to whether he was hiding other information."
• “Mamdani, his proposals, his funding, and his background received absolutely no scrutiny from the press,” said Rich Azzopardi, a spokesman for Mr. Cuomo’s campaign. “This issue must be fully investigated, because, if true, it could be fraud and just the tip of the iceberg.”
• [Another candidate running as an independent] asserted "that Mr. Mamdani was “the most poorly vetted candidate in history.”


Although they observed that he didn't claim to be black or African-American anywhere but in those applications, they do not mention that many mixed race people have trouble completing that information on the census.
The New York Times could find no speeches or interviews in which Mr. Mamdani referred to himself as Black or African American, and he said in an interview that applications to Columbia and other colleges were the only instances when he could recall describing himself as such.


Patrick Healy, assistant managing editor for NYT said:
“Mr. Mamdani shared his thinking about the limitations of identity-related boxes on application forms like Columbia’s, and how he wrote in ‘Uganda,’ the country of his birth, to explain why he checked the box — a decision many people with overlapping identities have wrestled with when they have been confronted with such form requests. Mr. Mamdani’s thinking and decision-making were newsworthy and in line with our mission to help readers better know and understand top candidates.”


Kamala Harris's biracial identity was questioned too.

I can attest that there's a escandal being made out of this news story. I saw a LOT of negative comments about it online.

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Is that all they've got? Ocelot II Jul 5 #1
Yep. That's what they got. They are two large pieces of crap. NoRethugFriends Jul 5 #2
It's a technicality Pototan Jul 5 #3
...Gotta find something wrong with the guy. Safe as Milk Jul 6 #12
Well, I respectfully disagree Pototan Jul 6 #17
Thanks for keeping it honest. Majority of DU wouldn't agree. rogue emissary Jul 6 #22
He didn't identify as "Native African." pnwmom Jul 6 #35
True - but that is because Native American is the only group requiring validation from one of the 574 tribes recognized 24601 Jul 6 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author AZProgressive Jul 6 #65
My Grandparents Are Hungarian, Polish, German, and Scottish DrFunkenstein Jul 7 #75
I can kind of understand his dilemma. What do you put when the choices don't Tadpole Raisin Jul 6 #28
Exactly. mwooldri Jul 6 #52
My brother was born in Japan....... LeftInTX Jul 8 #94
An embarrassingly weak allegation, sort of like Obama's birth certificate. Silent Type Jul 5 #4
So a high school student who immigrated here as a child from Africa pnwmom Jul 5 #5
No, when he admitted non of his South Asian family married any Africans rogue emissary Jul 6 #23
"my parents are black" is indeed how Americans comradebillyboy Jul 6 #29
Thank you. Be careful on DU. rogue emissary Jul 6 #32
I know. I am considered too insensitive by many. comradebillyboy Jul 6 #33
He was an immigrant who knew he came from Africa. pnwmom Jul 6 #36
It's completely understandable and forgivable for an 18 yo kid. comradebillyboy Jul 6 #41
From what I've read, that is the only instance they could find of him doing that. pnwmom Jul 6 #43
If that's the case it's no more than a youthful error. comradebillyboy Jul 6 #50
he grew up in America and was exposed to race and racism for years. rogue emissary Jul 6 #47
He was a high school kid who checked multiple boxes -- both South Asian and African, pnwmom Jul 6 #64
I was comparing him to myself when I was a High School student. rogue emissary Jul 6 #66
The word "African' doesn't tie a person to a particular tribe. nt pnwmom Jul 7 #68
Exactly, it's a Continental landmass. rogue emissary Jul 7 #80
Then why did you compare his situation to your not identifying as Seminole? pnwmom Jul 7 #81
When I applied to colleges. I always checked the Black or African American. rogue emissary Jul 7 #84
But you had lived in this country for your whole life. Zohran and his family had lived in Africa. pnwmom Jul 7 #85
I do and that's clear. rogue emissary Jul 8 #91
Last thing as you point out he was 17 teenager. rogue emissary Jul 8 #93
He was seven. My grandparents were born and raised in Turkey and came here as adults. LeftInTX Jul 8 #95
How is a high school student from Uganda supposed to know pnwmom Jul 6 #34
He was living in the US since 5 years old JI7 Jul 7 #74
Actually, he was 7 when his family moved here markpkessinger Jul 7 #77
So what? He was still a high school student. I've had three kids that age and I bet pnwmom Jul 7 #79
He's from a life of privilege. His mother is a hugely successful film maker. LeftInTX Jul 8 #100
LOL. You're assuming that his parents didn't TEACH him to view himself as having come from Africa. nt pnwmom Jul 8 #101
What do you do when a form says "check all that apply" ? I guess for you that's easy... Hekate Jul 6 #42
He still wouldn't apply. rogue emissary Jul 6 #49
He was 18 Hekate Jul 6 #59
How would you expect the high school student to know what the box specifically did or didn't mean? pnwmom Jul 8 #102
Does this mean Cuomo is running against Mamdani again? AZProgressive Jul 6 #6
How many generations have to be born in Africa to qualify as African? mackdaddy Jul 6 #7
Musk family goes back three generations in South Africa. rogue emissary Jul 6 #24
Exactly. comradebillyboy Jul 6 #30
"We" don't refer to that racist 54 yr. old as African American. The only time on record that Zohran pnwmom Jul 6 #44
He shouldn't even respond. It's a non issue Pisces Jul 6 #8
It's a none issue to you and majority of DU. rogue emissary Jul 6 #25
So those votes will go to choie Jul 6 #45
Not necessarily. rogue emissary Jul 6 #48
That's how we got *rump questionseverything Jul 6 #60
Agree 100%. rogue emissary Jul 6 #61
Exactly. choie Jul 8 #89
Not voting choie Jul 8 #88
I'd say Adams gets the vote Polybius Jul 7 #71
A vote for a corrupt choie Jul 8 #90
I hope not, but he's doing the never apologize strategy. rogue emissary Jul 8 #92
A litteral example of Whatabout-ism IbogaProject Jul 6 #9
BINGO! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jul 6 #20
New Yorkers don't care what race Mamdani says he is, they just want lower rent. SunSeeker Jul 6 #10
Being that he's in the hands of the real estate lobby choie Jul 6 #46
I can see why many are calling the NYT latest "bombshell" about Mamdani a hit piece. summer_in_TX Jul 6 #11
The NYT is going after him. thought crime Jul 6 #40
Yes, pretty damn clear. And scurrilous. summer_in_TX Jul 7 #86
Uganda is in East Africa Pototan Jul 6 #13
Musk joked about himself being African American Polybius Jul 6 #15
leftist called him crazy and offensive for saying it. rogue emissary Jul 6 #26
Is Musk a teenager? Did Musk only say that on a college application where he also checked off pnwmom Jul 6 #37
That's arguably worse than a joke, but you can't criticize one without the other Polybius Jul 7 #69
Sure you can. Musk is a middle aged man and Zohran was a teenager. pnwmom Jul 7 #72
The joke wasn't binding Polybius Jul 7 #73
Every bit as much as three generations of residence comradebillyboy Jul 6 #31
True, in the US. But there was no definition written on the college application, pnwmom Jul 6 #39
Mamdani winning must be scaring the daylights Deminpenn Jul 6 #14
So far it's either out right criminals and verified sex pests endorsing his opponent. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 6 #16
What desperation Adams and Cuomo are showing. RedArkGuy Jul 6 #18
Considering they refused to publish hacked JD Vance emails fujiyamasan Jul 6 #19
If you are referring to quotas, yes, that worked very well for generations of white men... Hekate Jul 6 #57
The losers "calling for an investigation!!!!!" Grins Jul 6 #21
A couple of pots calling the kettle.... SSJVegeta Jul 6 #27
Just another smear that no one should care about. thought crime Jul 6 #38
Guys... stollen Jul 6 #51
Unforced error by Cuomo. (Adams doesn't matter.) Scrivener7 Jul 6 #53
So, a guy from Africa said he was "African-American"... appmanga Jul 6 #54
So the guy was all of 18 and staring a college application form in the face... Hekate Jul 6 #58
His dad is a professor at Columbia. We tried checking all the blanks when we applied in the 70s. LeftInTX Jul 8 #96
That's certainly an exceptional set of parents he has. He may indeed have been cocky from the start... Hekate Jul 8 #98
If you get a chance to see any of his mother, Mira Nair's movies, they're worth it. LeftInTX Jul 8 #99
Monsoon Wedding was hers? It was overshadowed by My Big Fat Greek Wedding... Hekate Jul 8 #105
This is July's replacement to June's "Biden's Health!" headliners. Torchlight Jul 8 #106
Just wow Diraven Jul 6 #55
In a normal universe, you would expect Democrats to rally behind their candidate. eggplant Jul 6 #62
All this makes me like Mamdani more and more mainer Jul 6 #63
Who are they to talk? iemanja Jul 7 #67
Deport Cuomo please. nt KPN Jul 7 #70
Sounds serious, Adams and Cuomo Torchlight Jul 7 #76
This whole thing is silly mcar Jul 7 #78
Racist POS Trump Used This To Derail Elizabeth Warren's Campaign DrFunkenstein Jul 7 #82
Not really "miles ahead" Polybius Jul 7 #83
Wow didn't realize Adams was polling behind Silwa fujiyamasan Jul 8 #87
It looks like a lot of Republicans are voting for Cuomo this election Polybius Jul 8 #97
Non-issue. no_hypocrisy Jul 8 #103
Maybe they should call him "Pocahontas." Gore1FL Jul 8 #104
Uganda is in Africa Bluestocking Jul 8 #107
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