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MADem

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15. I am one of those "people" and I am not saying what you're claiming at all.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:30 PM
Dec 2012

I left Iran in 1979, in a hurry, too.

The people wanted something else than was delivered--women marched in the streets of Teheran actually thinking they'd get MORE rights with Shah gone--instead they got servitude and slavery. Gays, who were sneered at under Shah, were hanged in the town square under Khomeini. Armenians and Jews, Zoroastrians and Copts, citizens of that land since it was called Persia, and respected as "People of the Book" and protected as religious/ethnic minorities (and who owned the shops where you went for booze, bacon and Xmas trees) were hounded, hectored, insulted and run out of the country. THEIR country. THEIR homeland--for centuries. But hey, "they" were minorities, "others," so "they" just didn't count.

I don't think any of these "people" "wanted" to "move in this direction." I know full well the women who get flogged in the streets for a poorly adjusted rusari or a 'too tight' bulky raincoat (in the middle of the summer), to this very day by the Vice and Virtue assholes, don't particularly care for "this direction" one bit. I doubt the families of kids who get hanged for their orientation like it, either.

It would be nice if a few people in this world had the intestinal fortitude to point out that this kind of shit is just wrong, instead of pretending that it's "will of the people" when votes are suppressed and a result is gamed to produce something that is closer to tyranny than democracy.

But whatever. Just turn your head, don't look too close. It's all fun and games from a distance. From a distance, too, you don't really notice that all of the "power people" in the picture look the same.

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Right on! Coyotl Dec 2012 #1
This sucks--totally. MADem Dec 2012 #2
It probably neither sucks totally nor is the most desirable constitution ever. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #3
If you are a female or a Coptic Xtian it sucks. Totally. nt MADem Dec 2012 #4
We'll see how it plays out. Egypt doesn't become Berkeley overnight. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #5
I saw how it played out in Iran in 79. Meet the new boss, worse than the old boss. MADem Dec 2012 #6
+1. The LGBT community is also now in a terrible position nt riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #7
Anyone who is an "other" is pretty much screwed. MADem Dec 2012 #8
Nothing would be better if Mubarak has stayed in power. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #10
Who--save you--is postulating a strawman scenario where Mubarak stays in power? nt MADem Dec 2012 #12
That is what all this "Egypt is a dead loss" rhetoric is about. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #13
I am one of those "people" and I am not saying what you're claiming at all. MADem Dec 2012 #15
I agree that the people wanted something else in Iran. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #17
It's been over 3 decades. How long must we wait? That's the question. MADem Dec 2012 #18
Fine, guarantee the rights... Ken Burch Dec 2012 #9
Who's suggesting that this is "America's job?" MADem Dec 2012 #11
We need to stand with "the Other"-but not to sound arrogant while doing so. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #14
It shouldn't be just "The West." It should be every SOB in the world MADem Dec 2012 #16
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