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In reply to the discussion: Former Trump lawyer claims he knows Epstein client list names: 'But I'm bound by confidentiality' [View all]Wiz Imp
(6,829 posts)31. The List that even multiple people beyond the Trump DOJ had previously said doesn't exist?
The list, that if it does exist, surely contains his own name?
Link to tweet
https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/7/30/20746983/alan-dershowitz-jeffrey-epstein-sarah-ransome-giuffre
Dershowitz has written that he hesitated to defend Epstein because he was an acquaintance, Bruck writes. He told the New Yorker reporter that Epstein had misrepresented the allegations against him, telling Dershowitz that there were only half a dozen accusers who were under the age and that they slipped through the cracksthey presented fake I.D. When I later learned the extent of this, I was shocked, he told Bruck.
But one woman, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, says she was trafficked by Epstein to Dershowitz. Giuffre told Bruck that she began visiting Epsteins Palm Beach mansion in 2000, when she was not quite seventeen. She was expected to have sex with Epstein multiple times a day, she said, and she wrote in court documents that she was required to be sexually exploited by Defendants adult male peers. That included Dershowitz. Giuffre asserted that shed had sex with Dershowitz at least six times, in Epsteins various residences, on his island, in a car, and on his plane, Bruck writes.
In 1997, Dershowitz argued against statutory rape laws, saying the age of consent should be 15, Bruck reports. There must be criminal sanctions against sex with very young children, but it is doubtful whether such sanctions should apply to teenagers above the age of puberty, since voluntary sex is so common in their age group, he wrote in a Los Angeles Times op-ed.
Dershowitz stands by his argument today, tweeting earlier this week that if a 16 year old has the constitutional right to have an abortion without state or parental interference, how could she not have the constitutional right to engage in consensual sex?
But one woman, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, says she was trafficked by Epstein to Dershowitz. Giuffre told Bruck that she began visiting Epsteins Palm Beach mansion in 2000, when she was not quite seventeen. She was expected to have sex with Epstein multiple times a day, she said, and she wrote in court documents that she was required to be sexually exploited by Defendants adult male peers. That included Dershowitz. Giuffre asserted that shed had sex with Dershowitz at least six times, in Epsteins various residences, on his island, in a car, and on his plane, Bruck writes.
In 1997, Dershowitz argued against statutory rape laws, saying the age of consent should be 15, Bruck reports. There must be criminal sanctions against sex with very young children, but it is doubtful whether such sanctions should apply to teenagers above the age of puberty, since voluntary sex is so common in their age group, he wrote in a Los Angeles Times op-ed.
Dershowitz stands by his argument today, tweeting earlier this week that if a 16 year old has the constitutional right to have an abortion without state or parental interference, how could she not have the constitutional right to engage in consensual sex?
He was part of Epstein's legal team when the illegal plea deal was reached which effectively ignored Epstein's history of trafficking and statutory rape. When Epstein was actually arrested and going to be held responsible for his despicable behavior, Dershowitz had no connection to Epstein.
On whether he is currently defending Epstein
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/15/741739336/alan-dershowitz-weighs-in-on-his-work-on-the-jeffrey-epstein-case
No, I have no relationship with him. I haven't seen him in years and I haven't spoken to him in months. Occasionally, his lawyers his current lawyers will call to ask me questions about the plea deal. But I have no current legal relationship with him or personal relationship.
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/15/741739336/alan-dershowitz-weighs-in-on-his-work-on-the-jeffrey-epstein-case
No, I have no relationship with him. I haven't seen him in years and I haven't spoken to him in months. Occasionally, his lawyers his current lawyers will call to ask me questions about the plea deal. But I have no current legal relationship with him or personal relationship.
It would seem that is when any possible "list" would have come up. In addition, he was released after his initial prison sentence in 2009 (I think) so he had another 10 years to continue his illegal activities until he was arrested again in 2019. Dershowitz was not his lawyer during that time so there is no reason to trust Dershowitz would have ever actually had access to such information.
On the other hand, Dershowitz has such a history of lying and being a scumbag that it is easy to imagine him saying he could "name names" but simply naming people who were his "enemies" while totally protecting his "friends"
Regardless, Dershowitz has no credibility at this point so much so that he would never be called to testify in court by a competent lawyer.
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Former Trump lawyer claims he knows Epstein client list names: 'But I'm bound by confidentiality' [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Jul 11
OP
Why would anyone believe anything Dershowitz says? He's as big a liar and as big of an asshole as Trump.
Wiz Imp
Jul 11
#8
The List that even multiple people beyond the Trump DOJ had previously said doesn't exist?
Wiz Imp
Jul 11
#31
I never assumed there was a "list" akin to the D.C. Madam's "little black book"
BumRushDaShow
Jul 11
#32
And even if he saw "it", he has every reason to lie about it and none to tell the truth.
Wiz Imp
Jul 11
#33