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In reply to the discussion: Most Trump tariffs ruled illegal in huge blow to White House trade policy [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(169,209 posts)38. Tariff Payment Paper Trail Is Critical for Building Refund Case
trump and company promised the courts that they would refund any tariffs if they lose as a condition of the appeal of the first judgment. Lawyers are advising people and businesses on what information may be needed to get a refund of tariffs
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https://news.bloomberglaw.com/in-house-counsel/tariff-payment-paper-trail-is-critical-for-building-refund-case
Trade lawyers are telling clients to keep thorough records of the tariffs theyre payingstarting immediately if they havent alreadyahead of a court decision that could result in billions in refunds pouring back to companies......
Whether companies get a refund, how much gets refunded, and the process for getting money back to companies all hinge on the outcome of the litigation.
A lot is riding on this case, both for the future as well as for the tariffs that have been collected already, said Ginger Faulk, a partner at Eversheds Sutherland who leads the firms US and global sanctions practices.....
If the court declares the tariffs were entirely illegal, its almost certain that levies already paid would be eligible for a refund, said Michael Lowell, chair of Reed Smiths global regulatory enforcement group.
The decision could also be more nuanced than a simple yes or no, Gamalski said. For example, the court could point to particular stretches of time when the legal status of the tariffs changed. It could rule that the national emergency justification for using IEEPA to impose tariffs was valid for some countries, but not others.
Any of those outcomes could require companies to more finely parse out what they paid and when, she added.
Meanwhile, lawyers said, its also not clear if refund payments would be issued automatically, or if companies would need to calculate what theyre owed and file for their refunds themselves.
You should have all of your data ready because you might be going for everything; you might be having to isolate some of that, Gamalski said. And if you are starting at square zero of pulling everything together, its going to be just that much harder.
Whether companies get a refund, how much gets refunded, and the process for getting money back to companies all hinge on the outcome of the litigation.
A lot is riding on this case, both for the future as well as for the tariffs that have been collected already, said Ginger Faulk, a partner at Eversheds Sutherland who leads the firms US and global sanctions practices.....
If the court declares the tariffs were entirely illegal, its almost certain that levies already paid would be eligible for a refund, said Michael Lowell, chair of Reed Smiths global regulatory enforcement group.
The decision could also be more nuanced than a simple yes or no, Gamalski said. For example, the court could point to particular stretches of time when the legal status of the tariffs changed. It could rule that the national emergency justification for using IEEPA to impose tariffs was valid for some countries, but not others.
Any of those outcomes could require companies to more finely parse out what they paid and when, she added.
Meanwhile, lawyers said, its also not clear if refund payments would be issued automatically, or if companies would need to calculate what theyre owed and file for their refunds themselves.
You should have all of your data ready because you might be going for everything; you might be having to isolate some of that, Gamalski said. And if you are starting at square zero of pulling everything together, its going to be just that much harder.
Collecting the refund of the tariffs will be interesting and fun to watch
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Most Trump tariffs ruled illegal in huge blow to White House trade policy [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Aug 29
OP
and when he goes to the Supreme Court, what will they do? I sure would count on them. So far they have given
lostincalifornia
Aug 29
#1
DING DING DING!!!! That's it and why those asshats have always wanted Fat Hitler
Bengus81
Aug 29
#15
I wouldn't count on it, and they are allowing the tariffs to remain in place in the meantime.
lostincalifornia
Aug 29
#6
I wish I had a dollar for every time I have asked myself that same question. nt
Midnight Writer
Aug 29
#48
I wouldn't get too excited about this. Even though the appellate court upheld the earlier ruling by the
lostincalifornia
Aug 29
#5
So does giving him a month and a half to make another appeal. Seriously? They could file another appeal in a week.
ancianita
Aug 29
#20
"giving the "back office" time to plan contingencies" -- so this is due process?? An appeal on the current facts, law,
ancianita
Aug 29
#27
I expect that someone could easily run to "Daddy Roberts" (as he has threatened to do this evening)
BumRushDaShow
Aug 29
#31
The ruling, however, doesn't take effect immediately. The court withheld the mandate for its decision until *Oct. 14*
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 29
#8
It's important to see if those Republicans on the US EC will totally,100% ignore the Constitution
Bengus81
Aug 29
#18
Very well could be wrong but I believe this will tie in with any SCOTUS rulings on the FED and I believe SCOTUS will
Cheezoholic
Aug 29
#21
Honest, fair judges would'a required Anal Fistula to raise the tariffs even higher.2
3Hotdogs
Aug 29
#26
Courts, Courts, we don't need no stinking courts. I know that was said on 1600 Penn Ave
LiberalArkie
Aug 29
#37