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Wiz Imp

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24. From the University of Chicago Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Neuroscience
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 07:19 PM
Sep 1
https://psychiatry.uchicago.edu/news/mike-pence-said-liberals-emptied-mental-health-hospitals-1960s-they-didnt-act-alone

Would it be possible to reinstitutionalize the seriously mentally ill today? Experts agreed it would be unrealistic to return to mass institutionalization.

The law likely wouldn’t allow it, given several U.S. Supreme Court decisions that raised the threshold for involuntary commitment, including O’Connor v. Donaldson in 1975 and Addington v. Texas and Parham v. J.R. in 1979. "It would probably be impermissible to continue to hold someone who has been successfully treated with medication, unless it can be shown they will go off their meds once released," Vanderbilt’s Slobogin said.

Even if mass institutionalization were to return, it’s unlikely to reduce violence enough to outweigh the financial and societal costs, said Linda A. Teplin, vice chair for research in the department of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Northwestern University’s Feinberg School of Medicine. Because the vast majority of people committed would be nonviolent, she said, it would neither be cost-effective for reducing crime nor beneficial for the health of the people who would be institutionalized.

"Substance use, inequality and lack of opportunity, and access to guns are the major drivers of violence," rather than mental illness in a vacuum, Cohen said. Blaming serious mental illness "is just a diversion tactic."




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He can be the first customer. Ocelot II Sep 1 #1
Agree. Plus he could fill it up with bluestarone Sep 1 #30
Egg Zack Lee Botany Sep 2 #63
Be careful what you ask for, you crazy MF'er. walkingman Sep 1 #2
Does anyone seriously use the term insane asylums? CurtEastPoint Sep 1 #3
No one in the medical/psych profession uses this term. Irish_Dem Sep 1 #9
Trump does. He thinks immigrants seeking asylum are released asylum patients. travelingthrulife Sep 1 #11
Wait until he starts in on the "sexual inverts" Prairie Gates Sep 1 #37
I think Reagan closed a lot of these facilities which did lead to... Lucky Luciano Sep 1 #4
Some of those facilities were truly awful, but just cutting people loose Ocelot II Sep 1 #7
You got all that from the OP? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2 #44
It's exactly what Reagan did, and I can't imagine Trump being more humane than Reagan. Ocelot II Sep 2 #49
Take it from us Californians who watched it all unfold when Reagan was our governor Hekate Sep 2 #53
I've noticed Trump following up on a lot of his delusions MadameButterfly Sep 2 #61
Reagan was gov. of California when he closed the asylums/hospitals, without the promised support system Hekate Sep 1 #40
Thanks for your input! Lucky Luciano Sep 2 #48
You are welcome. Thanks for reading it. Hekate Sep 2 #52
Wow. MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2 #46
Lemme guess: staffed by the most cruel of ICE's goons? sakabatou Sep 1 #5
Or the national guard. Maybe sent to the gulags. Irish_Dem Sep 1 #10
The Soviet Union would send dissidents to mental hospitals DBoon Sep 1 #19
Yes the western mental health community was appalled. Irish_Dem Sep 1 #20
He may try to put them in Alligator Alcatraz. greatauntoftriplets Sep 1 #32
Hitler killed the mentally ill. The handicapped, impaired, etc. Irish_Dem Sep 2 #55
A certain governor? No, Reagan cut their budgest for tax cuts. bucolic_frolic Sep 1 #6
Pataki (R) would down one of them BumRushDaShow Sep 1 #16
Well, Reagan (as Governor) was largely responsible for the deinstitutionalization movement in California Wiz Imp Sep 1 #23
I mean. If Trump really wanted to go to heaven, reversing all the horrible shit done by Reagan (and himself) SSJVegeta Sep 1 #27
Isn't returning to the Dark Ages fun. ananda Sep 1 #8
Americans will be getting horrible diseases now. Irish_Dem Sep 1 #12
Only if he checks himself in! MrWowWow Sep 1 #13
How many more can Mar a Lago hold? tanyev Sep 1 #14
One flew over the GOP nest multigraincracker Sep 1 #15
"They released (the mentally ill) into society..." LudwigPastorius Sep 1 #17
Just like in Russia Bmoboy Sep 1 #18
There has been some good various levels of mental heath housing in NYC from people I've occasionally met over some... electric_blue68 Sep 1 #21
Naturally, Trump will decide who's insane and should be institutionalized. sop Sep 1 #22
There you go Bayard Sep 2 #51
From the University of Chicago Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Neuroscience Wiz Imp Sep 1 #24
Deflection YET AGAIN? Brainfodder Sep 1 #25
He's barely comprehensible. Joinfortmill Sep 1 #26
......and fully reprehensible Prof. Toru Tanaka Sep 1 #33
ROFL. True. Joinfortmill Sep 2 #62
Yes MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2 #47
Trump is like Reagan, constantly revisiting a halycon past that doesn't exist anymore bucolic_frolic Sep 1 #28
White House is the insane asylum twodogsbarking Sep 1 #29
"Trump will decide who's insane and should be institutionalized." J_William_Ryan Sep 1 #31
I thought he was irrevocably opposed to anyone having asylum. soldierant Sep 1 #34
They tore most of the ones in the Chicago area years ago. greatauntoftriplets Sep 1 #35
We really have the demented grampa "Back in my day!" bozo at the helm, huh? Prairie Gates Sep 1 #36
Close Hospitals for Mental Patients (Insane Asylums) topcelts Sep 1 #38
If so he should be committed. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 1 #39
Apparently he hasn't noticed most of the decayed structures Historic NY Sep 1 #41
Why does he think we have an unlimited supply of funds for all these pet projects? William Gustafson Sep 2 #42
It wasn't his idea MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2 #43
I thought Trump died? LeftInTX Sep 2 #45
I agree with TACO. Re-open them all, build hundreds more " insane asylums " for every Republican politician Bread and Circuses Sep 2 #50
He should be the first one committed. nt moniss Sep 2 #54
Creedmor and Bellevue are still operational Danmel Sep 2 #56
From what I had gone down the rabbit hole to find BumRushDaShow Sep 2 #57
I pass Creedmor all the time. It's off the Long Island Expressway in Queens. Danmel Sep 2 #59
My mom used to be a social worker here in PA (worked for the state and then the city back in the '50s) BumRushDaShow Sep 2 #60
Wow...I didn't realize Florida had been closed. n/t Cloudhopper Sep 2 #58
Trump Crazy House eringer Sep 2 #64
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