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84. Yes. Again, we're not disagreeing. Schumer (or someone) wanted this. Rumor is that the airline industry

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:49 PM

Nov 10

has been throwing a hissy fit over lost Thanksgiving business, so some who are funded heavily by the airline industry were willing to go against the wishes of most Democrats to cave and keep the airline money coming in to fund their campaigns.

So Schumer (or someone) found a way to get around what Democrats want in order to keep the airline cash coming in, and to do it with only people who won't be immediately hurt by going against the vast majority of Democrats. I don't believe at all that this was a surprise to Schumer. I think the 8 were acting according to Schumer's wishes.

I don't support that at all. (Perhaps you thought I did and that is where the misunderstanding is coming from. I am just describing what I think happened. I'm not saying I support it.)

But I believe that is what happened. And I'm not alone in that belief.

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Senate advances plan to end historic shutdown in bipartisan breakthrough [View all] Polybius Nov 9 OP

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Is a single word of your post to be backed by immediate legislation Bluetus Nov 9 #7

For the record on Schumer progree Nov 9 #15

I don't dispute that the 8 traitors knocked Schumer's legs from under him. But that just shows Bluetus Nov 9 #23

This was not him having his legs knocked out. This was protecting those who have elections coming up. Scrivener7 Nov 10 #53

What??? Makes no sense. Bluetus Nov 10 #55

You're not disagreeing with me. Not sure what you're saying makes no sense. Scrivener7 Nov 10 #73

What doesn't make sense to me is ... Bluetus Nov 10 #83

Yes. Again, we're not disagreeing. Schumer (or someone) wanted this. Rumor is that the airline industry Scrivener7 Nov 10 #84

Agreed Bluetus Nov 10 #87

Schumer orchestrated this chernabogg Nov 9 #28

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In 2020ish, we learned that it only takes 2 assholes to make people hate the entire Dem Party Bluetus Nov 10 #50

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Unfortunately he doesn't stand for election until 2028 Bluetus Nov 10 #81

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I hear you J popsdenver Nov 10 #79

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Democrats? ArizonaLib Nov 9 #29

Because they're traitors. Queso Delicioso Nov 10 #60

So basically the deal is OrwellwasRight Nov 9 #30

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