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RandomNumbers

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42. I'll admit to not understanding the details BUT
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 02:24 PM
Nov 22

2 points:

1. the water can not (er, SHOULD not) be discharged directly back to the environment, as in discharged to a body of water, while it is above the temperature of that water. Yes, you said closed-loop - but it certainly was not this way in the past, back when I was paying more attention in this specific area, it was a huge problem - power plants and industry using water for cooling, then discharging heated water back into the environment, thus raising the temperature of whatever body of water they were discharging to. (much aquatic life is rather sensitive to temperature, so raising the temp is not a good thing)

Given the relative cluelessness on both sides of the aisle, and the actual malevolence on the reich-wing side, I doubt that there have been substantive and sustained improvements in how energy-hungry entities operate in this regard.


2. Closed loop would be great, but given probably not (point 1 above), I'm presuming there's some volume loss throughout the process. I'm not 100% sure there isn't a small loss over time even with a closed loop. (by closed loop I assume you mean as in a ground loop geothermal system. Which they all should be using but I can pretty much guarantee they are not.)

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Tehran, Iran, has run out of water [View all] AverageOldGuy Nov 21 OP
Holy shit! FalloutShelter Nov 21 #1
I was just saying "Holy shit!" as I scrolled down the screen, and then saw your reply at the same time. Beartracks Nov 22 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author wolfie001 Nov 22 #53
Data centers? Nittersing Nov 21 #2
No. Indiscriminate drilling of individual wells for farming in Iran's case. littlemissmartypants Nov 21 #16
Ogllalah acquifer, anyone? dobleremolque Nov 22 #49
Legal and illegal boreholes... Some of them industry JCMach1 Nov 22 #56
It's not data centers in Tehran. paleotn Nov 21 #17
Some media reports talk about data center water usage. Makes no sense to me. Bluetus Nov 21 #30
I'll admit to not understanding the details BUT RandomNumbers Nov 22 #42
I have probably been in 200 data centers from 1970 to 2005, some of the largest in the world at the time Bluetus Nov 22 #50
They are using evaporative cooling. hunter Nov 23 #59
I admit to never considering this years ago when fishing in the dead of winter rzemanfl Nov 22 #51
Iran is probably in a better position than many countries that will soon face this. At least they have oil reserves AZJonnie Nov 21 #3
Desal plants are entirely insufficient for their needs NickB79 Nov 21 #4
I thought my verbiage made it pretty clear I believe that avenue was "insufficient" AZJonnie Nov 21 #6
Their southern coastline isn't good for human habitation Kaleva Nov 22 #36
Sucks for them JoseBalow Nov 21 #5
Save your popcorn for the US wolfie001 Nov 21 #24
Holy cats! mahina Nov 21 #28
Yes! Almost 50 years ago wolfie001 Nov 21 #29
Yikes!!! calimary Nov 22 #48
I've been hearing about the collapse in the central valley JoseBalow Nov 22 #52
Here in the states, we have Nestle doing much the same... Qutzupalotl Nov 21 #7
In a rapidly warming world, it sure is. paleotn Nov 21 #18
I'm in Arizona. Here, the Saudis are sucking the groundwater dry . . . wackadoo wabbit Nov 22 #35
Not anymore. Mosby Nov 22 #40
I wish you were correct that this isn't happening any longer, but, alas, it still is wackadoo wabbit Nov 23 #58
"warned not to pump the water so quickly, but they chose not to listen." Norrrm Nov 21 #8
I believe our mid-west is also vulnerable. 3Hotdogs Nov 21 #9
Depends. The Great Lakes and Mississippi are water sources since the Midwest shares weather ancianita Nov 21 #21
That's a big engineering problem and a bigger political problem. hunter Nov 21 #10
North of Tehran are snow capped mountains, green forests, and the Caspian Sea IronLionZion Nov 21 #11
The Caspian is rapidly diminishing. paleotn Nov 21 #20
We should pay attention and learn what it takes to move a city sarisataka Nov 21 #12
I think the lesson will not be how to move a city like Los Angeles ToxMarz Nov 21 #14
They are still arguing the cost BidenRocks Nov 21 #23
Los Angeles will be fine. hunter Nov 21 #31
I wouldn't bet on that. Phoenix would likely be hit by drought sooner. nt Exp Nov 22 #45
In the U.S.::: Ogallala Aquifer Exp Nov 21 #13
I grew up in Amarillo on the Ogallala aquifer. markodochartaigh Nov 22 #41
We're about to run out of water here after years long drought. Reservoirs down to 10.7% surfered Nov 21 #15
Abbott will be dead when the shit really hits the fan and he knows it. paleotn Nov 21 #22
We have known there were going to be serious water issues... ananda Nov 21 #19
+1000. And how many people won't pay attention to this canary RandomNumbers Nov 22 #43
Is the world just too large for people to process... ananda Nov 22 #54
I think that it is, at least for the average person RandomNumbers Nov 22 #55
Subsience was becoming a big problem there even before the water crisis Warpy Nov 21 #25
maybe russia can ship water as payment for their drones. nt yaesu Nov 21 #26
I'm really sorry for the people. We have to watch out for this here too. mahina Nov 21 #27
Oh, dear, for the regular citizens there. electric_blue68 Nov 21 #32
quite a while ago saw some tour show + they had a melon farmer + i never saw such a waste of water. pansypoo53219 Nov 21 #33
Stories of things to come.... n/t gay texan Nov 21 #34
The canary in the coal mine. raccoon Nov 22 #37
didn't see your post RandomNumbers Nov 22 #44
That's a good way of putting it. calimary Nov 22 #46
Tehran gfarber Nov 22 #38
"And now rescue may come far too late." calimary Nov 22 #47
NPR did a story on it last week tonekat Nov 22 #57
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