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Fiendish Thingy

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4. Russia will never agree

Reply to GJGCA (Original post)

Sun Nov 23, 2025, 06:17 PM

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EU membership is in the plan, with Article 5-style security protection from the EU and the US.

NATO membership is not off the table.

Item #27 is designed to ensure Trump’s approval, as it lays the groundwork for a Nobel Peace Prize.

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Full text of European counter-proposal to US Ukraine peace plan [View all] GJGCA Sunday OP

Well that won't work. The Madcap Sunday #1

Damn straight that won't work. lamp_shade Sunday #3

#27 is designed to get Trump's support Fiendish Thingy Sunday #5

Nope. I meant 27. The Madcap Sunday #7

Ukrainian military capped at 800K? With a belligerent nation on their doorstep simply needing some breathing space paleotn Sunday #2

Russia will never agree Fiendish Thingy Sunday #4

Some of these points are laughable. AZ8theist Sunday #6

Yet another ridiculous batch of bullshit Bayard Yesterday #8

Counter-proposal? It certainly does not read all that differently. niyad Yesterday #9

It still means Ukraine cedes the conquered land: maxsolomon 20 hrs ago #10

Any peace plan will likely offer some ceding of territory Polybius 19 hrs ago #11

Unfortunately, I agree. maxsolomon 2 hrs ago #13

That's a big resounding "NO"! FakeNoose 19 hrs ago #12

It would likely mean "swapping" occupied territory for other areas maxsolomon 1 hr ago #14

Putin wants something that isn't his: the Crimean Peninsula FakeNoose 1 hr ago #15

He's got Crimea now. You're right; Putin won't give it back. maxsolomon 1 hr ago #16