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Emrys

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19. The Russians are always touchy about details of their agreements being released while negotiations are ongoing

Reply to Diraven (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 26, 2025, 09:22 AM

Nov 26

I believe there are at least three versions of the revised "deals" going around, no idea which is the one the Russians will probably finally reject. The noises they've made so far are predictably not promising despite the US administration's hype.

Even if there's ever an agreement in principle, NATO, the EU and Ukraine's parliament will have to give their formal approval anyway (I guess Trump will have to involve Congress as well if he's not having a 100% autocratic despot day) before anything's signed and as binding as these things will ever be.

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Yeah, why is this a secret? Diraven Nov 26 #15

The Russians are always touchy about details of their agreements being released while negotiations are ongoing Emrys Nov 26 #19

But "everyone" keeps saying Russia wrote the deal, so they would have approved? Silent Type Nov 25 #10

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