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Igel

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21. No, actually they're quite clear that they're not.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 12:33 PM
Yesterday

At least not in the sense of claiming that "cat domestication" happened only in Europe. But they do date the timing of "cat domestication in Europe", which is quite a different thing. It's the difference between claiming the origin of the specie's domestication versus timing when domestication was introduced into Europe.

... It was a separate dispersal from North Africa about two centuries later that formed the genetic basis of the modern domestic cat in Europe.
The study's findings suggest that there was not a single core region of cat domestication, but that several regions and cultures in North Africa played a role, according to zooarchaeologist and study co-author Bea De Cupere of the Royal Belgian Institute of Natural Sciences....
The earliest domestic cat in Europe identified in the study - one genetically similar to present-day domestic cats - dated to between 50 BC and 80 AD from the Austrian town of Mautern, site of a Roman fort along the Danube River.
The study, however, does not unravel the timing and location of the initial feline domestication.
"Cat domestication is complex," Ottoni said, "and what we can tell now is the timing of the introduction of domestic cats to Europe from North Africa. We can't really say much what happened before and where."



Then there's another competing study that looks at North Africa:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq8dvdp9gn7o

The contribution of which seems to strongly move the locus of early domestication away from Arabia and adjacent areas to North Africa--probably Egypt, but given trade routes you can't really rule out Cyrenica.

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That is a grand discovery tonekat Thursday #1
"The cat skeleton was found near some pottery shards. Pinback Thursday #2
That innate urge to test gravity! TexasBushwhacker Yesterday #20
Fascinating news! Thank you. nt Ilsa Thursday #3
I can domesticate him Norrrm Thursday #4
Yes, but that was not in Eurpoe. soldierant Thursday #14
No, actually they're quite clear that they're not. Igel Yesterday #21
I said it poorly but we agree. soldierant 21 hrs ago #24
This message was self-deleted by its author soldierant 21 hrs ago #23
Mine own proofs BettyBlueDot Thursday #5
How familiar......hmmm, JMCKUSICK Thursday #6
Oh I love ginger kitties. They have such cute personalities. Ziggysmom Thursday #13
Welcome to DU Betty ! KS Toronado Thursday #9
I think its well known that we didn't domesticate cats. Xolodno Thursday #7
Cats were domesticated? Blumancru Thursday #8
News to our feline overlords as well!!! niyad Thursday #10
Cats are the only true socialists. If you own it, so does the cat. marble falls Thursday #12
I'm surprised. Cats were domesticated in Egypt for centuries before that. Perhaps for 10,000 years in the mideast. marble falls Thursday #11
Excellent point. It could explain the difference in temperament between "asian" cats and other breeds. Martin68 Thursday #17
My cat domesticates me Stacey Grove Thursday #15
Evidence of a more recent domestication confirms why cat are less inclined to obey, and more inclined to compromise Martin68 Thursday #16
It takes about five cats to equal the trouble of one dog airplaneman 21 hrs ago #22
Exactly! That's why we have two cats and no dog. We can leave for the weekend, leave plenty of food out for them, and Martin68 20 hrs ago #25
Roman playwright Plautus "Nomen est omen" LudwigPastorius Thursday #18
at one time... da svenster Yesterday #19
Whenever or wherever domestication began, I'm just so glad... 3catwoman3 19 hrs ago #26
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