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In reply to the discussion: Breaking: Obama hosts George H.W. and Jeb Bush at White House [View all]Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)The pix doesn't tell us anything about the mood/content of the meeting before they went in front of the camera. And the WH probably released the pix because somebody was going to leak the meeting. Their first choice was SECRECY. And the Alfalfa Club thing?--just a ruse. This was NOT likely a "social meeting" in my opinion.
So what could the meeting have been about?
My guess: Iran. And China in connection to Iran. I think that Bush Sr has basically been running U.S. foreign policy and war policy since Rumsfeld was ousted, and I think Bush Sr did that ousting of Rumsfeld. The main issue was the Rumsfeld-Cheney intention to nuke Iran. Circa 2006. A second issue was Rumsfeld/Cheney outing CIA agents and the entire CIA WMD counter-proliferation program, thus getting Jr in serious hot water with the CIA, at the risk of serious CIA retaliation. Daddy Bush stepped in, using his "Iraq Study Group" (old CIA cronies including--guess who?--Leon Panetta!). A better name for it would have been the "Iran Study Group" (or the "Save Junior Study Group" . My guess, at the time, was that China was threatening to come into it, on Iran's side (and maybe Russia, too). Threat of nuclear armageddon in the Middle East and possibly the world, or at least a major fracas. (Pakistan, India, Israel, all with nukes, too.) Bad for the oil business. Bad for transglobals in China. Etc. Rumsfeld/Cheney wouldn't listen to Bush Sr. He got together with the military brass (who also didn't like their plan), the current CIA and possibly others; they retired Rumsfeld and held Cheney in check for two years, then let the Democrats win, probably on promise of no investigation/no prosecution of Bush Junta principles--a "deal" that Obama agreed to. (Pelosi goofed when she stated publicly that, "Impeachment is off the table." WHAT "table," Nancy?)
And Panetta was then brought in, first to the CIA, and then a hop to the Pentagon, to heal this war that had broken out deep within the U.S. war machine. Another thing that Panetta was likely tasked with was monitoring "the deal" for immunity and covering up Jr's and others' trails where necessary.
We need to understand that, by 2006, one, far rightwing-connected corporation--ES&S which bought out Diebold--already had monopoly control of U.S. election results, with the 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines almost everywhere. This makes it easy--EASY!--for powers like the Bush Cartel to call the shots. They can elect and un-elect anyone they wish. Obama was "vetted," agreed to "the deal," and Iran--which went away for a while after Rumsfeld was ousted--is now back on the U.S. (transglobal/war profiteer) agenda. And Bush Sr very much wants a say in what happens.
It may be that something serious is afoot, again, with regard to Iran. Maybe the war plan has become more sophisticated (not a nuking) and thus more feasible without serious inconvenience to oil corps or transglobal manufacturing and shipping. This fits with Panetta's methodology--much subtler and more sophisticated than Rumsfeld/Cheney and the other Bushwhacks. Bush Sr's visit to Obama could have had to do with China's interests, the Bush Cartel's interests and western bankster interests in some move against Iran. Bush Sr may have spared us all nuclear armageddon but he did NOT visit Obama in the interest of humanity but more likely to "call in his chips" (very big chips) on some matter--a matter involving face to face with Obama, maybe alone (or just with Jeb). We can't know who else was there. But I would bet money on Panetta being there, under strict secrecy, if anyone.
On the issue of Bush Junta war crimes: a little known but potentially explosive issue is Bush Junta crimes in Colombia. I found it notable that Panetta's first visible act as CIA Director was to go to Bogota and yank mafia boss, president and Bush Jr crony, Alvaro Uribe, from the stage. Uribe landed on a silk cushion, probably because of what he knows. And there have been other cleanup actions, all pointing to U.S. crimes in Colombia over the last decade (and to Bushite consolidation and control of the trillion+ dollar cocaine revenue stream). Colombia prosecutors are pursuing Uribe, while the U.S. has been getting witnesses out of the country.
It's possible that this (potential for Bushwhacks being nabbed by Colombian prosecutors*) was a subject of discussion between Bush Sr and Obama, as well. But I would bet on Iran--with all the possible implications of U.S. action against Iran, and U.S. policy on Iran and the region--being the main reason for a face to face.
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*(A witness recently came forward and testified in Colombia that "an American" was a go-between between the U.S. embassy in Colombia and the vast and illegal spying operation that Uribe was conducting. The suspicion is that the spying was used to draw up "hit lists" for the Colombian military and closely tied paramilitary death squads, to eliminate labor leaders, human rights workers, teachers, community activists, political leftists, peasant farmer organizers and others whom Uribe called "terrorists" (anyone who opposed him). This "American" was likely reporting to U.S. ambassador William Brownfield (appointed by Bush), who was closely involved in some of the cleanup and coverup actions, including an attempt to get total diplomatic immunity for all U.S. military personnel and all U.S. military 'contractors' in Colombia, in a secret U.S./Colombia military agreement, at least a decade into the U.S. military presence in Colombia, and the extradition of death squad witness to the U.S., on mere drug charges, and their burial in the U.S. federal prison system, out of the reach of Colombian prosecutors and over their objections.
(It is not clear yet that Colombian prosecutors are going after Bush Junta figures, but if they nail Uribe, Bush Junta figures could well be implicated, and the "chain of command" on U.S. military and covert ops decisions in Colombia, and elsewhere, was topped by Bush Jr. BTU, there is tenuous but intriguing evidence that Rumsfeld was directly involved in U.S. ops in Colombia (and against Venezuela) even after he left the Pentagon. He likely had a plan including "Office of Special Plans" rigged evidence that unfolded with the U.S./Colombia bombing/raid on Ecuador in early 2008. The plan was to tie Chavez/Venezuela and his ally Correa/Ecuador to the FARC guerillas in Colombia. It was quite an elaborate (and I have to say, Rumsfeldian) plan and it backfired. Rumsfeld showed distinct interest in this plan by publishing an op-ed about it in the Washington Post at a critical point in the plan's first stage (enticing Hugo Chavez to negotiate with the FARC to get hostages released).
(What else might Rumsfeld have been up to in Colombia? One suspicion: Using Colombia for "turkey shoots" to train black ops assassins and hit squads for other countries. Last year, Clinton's State Dept. "fined" Blackwater for "unauthorized" "trainings" of "foreign persons" IN COLOMBIA "for use in Iraq and Afghanistan." I think that the word "unauthorized" in that P.R. release was a lie.
(Be wary as "limited hangouts," as they began to be called during the Watergate scandal--that is, powers-that-be releasing partial info to cover up what's really going on. Such as Bush Sr visiting Obama because they are both going to Alfalfa Club event. Or such as the Obama-Clinton State Dept. "fining" Blackwater for "unauthorized" activities during the Bush Junta. We need to learn the fine art of "reading between the lines."
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