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100. Ok, I'll tell you again that Snowden is a hero, and this isn't espionage

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:37 PM

Jun 2013

If you're really a liberal, or even a Democrat, you should be embarassed. First, do you really believe that the bad guys had no idea we were surveilling them on this level? Seriously? Secondly, you take as gospel what unnamed, unknown official sources say, even when those sources--if they truly exist--have a vested interest (or rather a CONFLICT OF INTEREST) in lying to you? Your eagerness to swallow any official story whole, without, apparently, any critical thinking whatever, shows just how far the Democratic Party has fallen, and just how compromised and conservative its most ardent defenders really are.

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The 'Snowden Effect': U.S. spies say militants change tactics [View all] baldguy Jun 2013 OP

We Owe Snowden A Debt Of Gratitude For Exposing The Surveillance State To Americans cantbeserious Jun 2013 #1

"She had nineteen50 Jun 2013 #6

yeah right BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #16

you nailed it n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #18

Amen, fasttense Jun 2013 #62

Yes drynberg Jun 2013 #63

debt ? Gratitudde ? kardonb Jun 2013 #27

We Will Have To Agree To Disagree cantbeserious Jun 2013 #55

"Our enemies": no, you mean, Washington DC's enemies cpwm17 Jun 2013 #67

Right You Are - It Is Time Get Off This Merry Go Round cantbeserious Jun 2013 #70

We owe him a trial and perhaps some jail time. He's committed treason. I'm not ready to grant spicegal Jun 2013 #57

We Will Have To Agree To Disagree cantbeserious Jun 2013 #59

he isn't rtracey Jun 2013 #66

So Where Is Your Outrage Regarding Thief Number One cantbeserious Jun 2013 #69

who says Im not rtracey Jun 2013 #74

Clarification Thorandmjolnir Jun 2013 #81

yes rtracey Jun 2013 #83

Правильно, товарищ! I love weed Jun 2013 #80

Remember when waterboarding was disclosed OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #2

ROFLMAO n/t cosmicone Jun 2013 #71

Snowden is a hero Turbineguy Jun 2013 #3

"Until they nineteen50 Jun 2013 #8

+1 Galraedia Jun 2013 #11

Sounds about right railsback Jun 2013 #36

enemies? frylock Jun 2013 #43

Enemies? Everybody loves us. Turbineguy Jun 2013 #77

Too funny usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #86

"national security sources said" cthulu2016 Jun 2013 #4

Snowden SamKnause Jun 2013 #5

Agreed - Well Said - With What We Have Learned, Our Government Is No Longer Worthy Of Trust cantbeserious Jun 2013 #9

I hope they got your message loud and clear LOL Amonester Jun 2013 #22

List SamKnause Jun 2013 #25

I know 'they' know where to find me since 2006. Amonester Jun 2013 #40

support kardonb Jun 2013 #28

Please don't trot out that overused, ridiculous retort. crim son Jun 2013 #38

Suggest you shut the fuck up with Republican love it or leave it bullshit DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #49

I suggest you leave this site. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #50

"All branches of government in the U.S. are corrupt beyond repair" bhikkhu Jun 2013 #29

Seems most here have become staunch admirers of Reagan railsback Jun 2013 #37

Corruption SamKnause Jun 2013 #41

Happy birthday, Sam.. frylock Jun 2013 #44

frylock SamKnause Jun 2013 #46

I so agree with everything you've written. Thanks for being such a great snappyturtle Jun 2013 #78

Snowden SamKnause Jun 2013 #88

Well, Turbineguy Jun 2013 #79

"All branches of government in the U.S. are corrupt beyond repair" DCBob Jun 2013 #89

"The charge ... made by officials speaking on condition of anonymity" n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2013 #7

"U.S. national security sources say" mindwalker_i Jun 2013 #10

why are they called intelligence agencies rather than illegal govt spy agencies? olddad56 Jun 2013 #12

Maybe because they're not illegal. baldguy Jun 2013 #21

LOL. nt SunSeeker Jun 2013 #33

I guess the NSA and our gov't should have take civilian privacy more seriously. nt killbotfactory Jun 2013 #13

The terrorist organizations didn't already assume the NSA had comprehensive phone and Internet Incitatus Jun 2013 #14

Our government is a bigger threat to us then any terrorist. dookers Jun 2013 #15

So, using the logic that revealing classified information = a hero does this mean cstanleytech Jun 2013 #17

Was Plame listening in on our phone calls and reading our emails? n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #19

No, but then neither is anyone at the NSA today. baldguy Jun 2013 #20

They count on most people to believe that. Psephos Jun 2013 #23

I did follow the links, but probably not the ones you wanted me to. baldguy Jun 2013 #26

Figures. Psephos Jun 2013 #31

Or something like that. wtmusic Jun 2013 #87

No but she was an agent for the CIA whos name was revealed illegally cstanleytech Jun 2013 #73

Very possibly. She was a spy. treestar Jun 2013 #104

I have to say you have a point there. n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #105

Not to a cherry picker. railsback Jun 2013 #39

When the United States killed Bin Laden Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #24

Ridiculous. delrem Jun 2013 #30

Ooh scary terrorist boogeymen. Sounds like it's time to start a war. nt wtmusic Jun 2013 #32

Yeah, and I assume Putin & China have downloaded the contents of those 4 laptops. nt SunSeeker Jun 2013 #34

when the list of America's dead rises from terrorist attacks PatrynXX Jun 2013 #35

truly ominous.. frylock Jun 2013 #45

...and scary... temmer Jun 2013 #97

An Assertion That Will Never Be Provable cantbeserious Jun 2013 #60

We have no credible knowledge Maedhros Jun 2013 #42

Have you invested any money in waterfront properties in Gobi recently? How about a bridge? idwiyo Jun 2013 #47

I should trust what anonymous officials say? Ash_F Jun 2013 #48

The NSA needs to "look into" this leak and get to the bottom of it. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #52

Um, they already know to do that. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #51

Sure. Exposed NSA spying on my phone and email is causing Islamic Jihadis to change tactics? BS leveymg Jun 2013 #53

+1 wtmusic Jun 2013 #84

Yeah, well, I have a friend who takes (prescribed) Marinol (still expensive) because it djean111 Jun 2013 #54

Is there a folly in this? KansDem Jun 2013 #56

Everyone cheering Snowden on didn't take this into account. liberal N proud Jun 2013 #58

Don't you think they'd done so long ago dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #61

Everyone decrying him didn't take this into account ... Nihil Jun 2013 #65

Gee, who could have predicted this? bemildred Jun 2013 #64

Some people will believe any BS they gov't hands them.. BrainDrain Jun 2013 #68

And some people think all evil flows from the fed govt. baldguy Jun 2013 #76

It's probably about even. wtmusic Jun 2013 #85

Goebbels would be so proud cosmicone Jun 2013 #72

So would Godwin. baldguy Jun 2013 #75

Edward Snowden has underscored Clapper's lie and, thus, deserves credit for his whistle-blowing.... xocet Jun 2013 #82

As John Kerry said.. "people may die" due to Snowden. DCBob Jun 2013 #90

Or they might not die. Together with your comment that covers all the bases. xocet Jun 2013 #91

how about "more likely to die"? DCBob Jun 2013 #92

Narrator: "On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero." xocet Jun 2013 #94

Bullshit. Orsino Jun 2013 #93

Of course they knew.. DCBob Jun 2013 #95

bullshit - it's irrelevant for them nt temmer Jun 2013 #96

wow... bullshit must be the word of the day.. and such a lovely image. DCBob Jun 2013 #99

Juan Cole wrote an insightful piece Maedhros Jun 2013 #98

Ok, I'll tell you again that Snowden is a hero, and this isn't espionage PunkyAmerica Jun 2013 #100

Snowden is no hero. And it is espionage. baldguy Jun 2013 #102

I feel like a good chunk of DUers have turned into a bunch of government hating teabaggers! Narkos Jun 2013 #101

Terrorists harder to track after Snowden's leaks, officials say bemildred Jun 2013 #103