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Jesus Malverde

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26. It's not the "current calls" they listen in on...
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jun 2013

They have all the past calls, transcribed, indexed and stored.

When "someone from AQAP calls someone in Kansas" an analyst pulls that data and reviews it, and then all other calls to the Kansas number. Then they look at all calls that numbers that called the Kansas number called. Then they match that their bank, health and other records creating a three dimensional picture of the targets digital life.

The notion that that there is some quaint analyst at a switchboard listening in "by chance" goes against all that is known about the technology used by the NSA going back to the 1980's.

Where people get confused, are the standards people use for legal wiretaps used for courts and those used by the surveillance state. The latter by their nature are classified and not used in court.

The rules as implemented by the FBI and NSA are different. What we know is NSA intercepts are only made available to courts after being managed by the FBI. How the NSA implements the non court intercepts is largely out of any oversight.

The NSA follows Rumsfeld's philosophy about "known unknowns" they address that by knowing all.

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NSA isn't the beginning and end of the surveillance state KG Jun 2013 #1
Really this has been common knowledge if your a Ny'er .. Historic NY Jun 2013 #2
So, "Just move along. It's old news. Nothing to see here." AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #4
Correct. Important that it's being scrutinized. JackRiddler Jun 2013 #6
Your last sentence.... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #9
Not just if you were a New Yorker, but if you were anywhere and paying any attention. harmonicon Jun 2013 #10
so you think what the CIA is doing is okay? nt temmer Jun 2013 #11
No, but I'm not surprised. harmonicon Jun 2013 #12
It's important not to let knowledge... JackRiddler Jun 2013 #17
Yes, I knew about both. harmonicon Jun 2013 #28
Wrong. To the contrary. closeupready Jun 2013 #18
Lets see where we read this before....... Historic NY Jun 2013 #21
Hardly 'common knowledge', as you put it. closeupready Jun 2013 #22
It is if you been following along. Historic NY Jun 2013 #25
I thought the CIA wasn't supposed to operate in the United States? Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #3
They aren't supposed to operate inside U.S. borders, premium Jun 2013 #5
In the transitional days prior to and after 9/11 Historic NY Jun 2013 #24
Good luck. That's never been the case. JackRiddler Jun 2013 #7
thank you - uncomfortable truths have to be spoken out temmer Jun 2013 #8
Experts at subverting political systems Jesus Malverde Jun 2013 #23
They say this all the time, so it must be true. JackRiddler Jun 2013 #27
They're not supposed to spy on US citizens' domestic activities. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #15
It's not the "current calls" they listen in on... Jesus Malverde Jun 2013 #26
Laws and the Constitution are so 20th Century. - nt HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #16
Phil Agee wrote "Inside the Company: CIA Diary" Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #13
This is how the CIA and others follow the law without actually following it askeptic Jun 2013 #14
Law and Democracy is an illusion here in the USA. L0oniX Jun 2013 #19
CIA 'worked' with lots of cop shops, such as Los Angeles PD when RFK was assassinated. Octafish Jun 2013 #20
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