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41. Dipping into the bottomless war chest is the gain. It's ALWAYS the gain. nt

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Kerry Makes Case That Syria Used Chemical Weapons [View all] onehandle Aug 2013 OP

Mustard, sarin and VX Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #1

Nothing is more fun than VX. jessie04 Aug 2013 #27

Intelligence MY ASS I heard last night on Mark Thompson show who we are relying on for intelligence bigdarryl Aug 2013 #2

His Powell moment. go west young man Aug 2013 #3

Indeed. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #12

Thank you Secretary of State Kerry! golfguru Aug 2013 #4

+ a million Number23 Aug 2013 #10

No - we're pissed that this Administration is using the same playbook as Bush: Maedhros Aug 2013 #15

Bullshit. That's not what this admnistration is doing and only a full-fledged fool would think so Number23 Aug 2013 #17

say it uhnope Aug 2013 #36

Have the UN inspectors finished their investigation and released their findings? [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2013 #37

The State Dept Report is missing something essential- any specific evidence of command authorization leveymg Aug 2013 #72

See, that's what I want to see before I support action: Maedhros Aug 2013 #75

"or the work of an over-zealous officer" arewenotdemo Aug 2013 #79

It would be extraordinarily intreresting if the rumours were true that it's leveymg Aug 2013 #81

People never seem to consider that Assad's army is heavily infiltrated by the rebels. Democracyinkind Aug 2013 #101

Obama, Kerry & Hagel golfguru Aug 2013 #19

Democrats never lie. Never. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #21

I am old enough to know all politicians lie at times golfguru Aug 2013 #23

Nothing to gain? avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #28

Did you vote in the 2012 election? golfguru Aug 2013 #34

that's a damn good question, and one that i imagine many citizens will be asking themselves in 2014. frylock Aug 2013 #54

Access carla Aug 2013 #30

how a pealing. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2013 #55

Dipping into the bottomless war chest is the gain. It's ALWAYS the gain. nt valerief Aug 2013 #41

How cynical of you! golfguru Aug 2013 #60

But I imagine you're totally on board Maedhros Aug 2013 #64

It really should not surprise you golfguru Aug 2013 #68

Our intervention in Syria is guaranteed to cause civilian casualties. Maedhros Aug 2013 #71

When the crime is inhuman and atrocious golfguru Aug 2013 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author daleo Aug 2013 #88

So killing civilians with chemical weapons is inhuman daleo Aug 2013 #89

Apples and Oranges golfguru Aug 2013 #94

We have to destroy civilians to save them? Maedhros Aug 2013 #95

A dozen civilians as collateral better than 1200 civilians later golfguru Aug 2013 #107

But nothing we can do will guarantee that future attacks won't happen. Maedhros Aug 2013 #108

In recorded history appeasement has been the absolute worse golfguru Aug 2013 #109

I think your comparison is ridiculous. Maedhros Aug 2013 #110

The FSA is the Syrian Army defected. go west young man Aug 2013 #66

Agreed, solid proof is an absolute must before any attack golfguru Aug 2013 #69

"They will not lie to us." ronnie624 Aug 2013 #92

No. It is very simplistic thinking to equate the two. Kerry... YvonneCa Aug 2013 #45

What should I believe? Maedhros Aug 2013 #46

It's not about belief. It is about facts. INFORM yourself... YvonneCa Aug 2013 #49

I do my best to inform myself, thank you. Maedhros Aug 2013 #63

Kerry voted for the IWR. Therefore, the blood of every casualty of that war is partly on his hands. arewenotdemo Aug 2013 #80

Thank you, arewenotdemo Carolina Aug 2013 #87

Agree entirely, Carolina. arewenotdemo Aug 2013 #97

The report talks about the evidence, but none of us get to see any of the evidence as far JDPriestly Aug 2013 #35

"we do not hear (at least in our media) Assad protesting" - really? Ghost Dog Aug 2013 #59

Thaaaaaaaaaaank you !! +1,000,000 jessie04 Aug 2013 #29

+ 1e10 Sand Wind Aug 2013 #39

Choose to believe Jessy169 Aug 2013 #5

That doesn't prevent a situation where the people who tell Obama and Kerry what the deal is AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #11

I trust Kerry and Obama to be smart enough to recognize lies when they see them Jessy169 Aug 2013 #16

They've made a very late and very soft case for the intervention. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #31

Do they recognize lies when they TELL them? FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #74

Great question! arewenotdemo Aug 2013 #82

" In this case, I choose to believe. I don't feel that I have any other choice." carla Aug 2013 #32

Bush supporters said this back in the day daleo Aug 2013 #90

You forgot the link maddezmom Aug 2013 #6

Coming. nt onehandle Aug 2013 #7

Thanks maddezmom Aug 2013 #24

I'm interested in what the UN will find MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #8

Government Assessment statement link. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #9

I don't want "evidence". I want PROOF! n/t SpankMe Aug 2013 #13

There is no link in the OP (?) Maedhros Aug 2013 #14

There is a rule in LBN requiring posters to use the exact headline of the article. Mosby Aug 2013 #20

Right. And that was the breaking news headline when I posted it. onehandle Aug 2013 #22

I think I found the wrong story... Maedhros Aug 2013 #40

Play those funky war drums white boy. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #18

Kerry is a great statesman, great democrat, great american and great humanitarium. jessie04 Aug 2013 #25

Just got the assessment from a journalist friend... carla Aug 2013 #26

What do you mean by Glaspie Moment, what was said ? jakeXT Aug 2013 #62

The bet is that the "War Choir" has ratcheted up the chorus. So here we go again! -- n/t mazzarro Aug 2013 #67

Glaspie Moment? karynnj Aug 2013 #91

What they do not seem to get is that most of us realize that chemical weapons were used. What we jwirr Aug 2013 #33

Kerry know what he is talking about. it's an honourable man. Sand Wind Aug 2013 #38

And just who are you? [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2013 #42

He is from John2 Aug 2013 #43

Colin Powell was far more convincing about Iraq. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2013 #44

Powell was talking about something that could happen, Kerry talked about something that did Sand Wind Aug 2013 #47

False equivalency is seldom a rational argument Politicub Aug 2013 #50

I trust Kerry Politicub Aug 2013 #48

And North Korea and Zimbabwe, and several other nations come to mind. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2013 #52

I wish we could help all people oppressed by violence Politicub Aug 2013 #70

Colin Powell offered concrete evidence, too.... mike_c Aug 2013 #51

Just a pinch of this anthrax looking flour..... The_Casual_Observer Aug 2013 #56

Now, that's funny. Chef hat on head. arewenotdemo Aug 2013 #84

he may as well have been holding a tampon Skittles Aug 2013 #76

Apparently there were confirming accounts on twitter and other social media. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2013 #53

LOL. arewenotdemo Aug 2013 #96

even if true, we should not be involved bowens43 Aug 2013 #57

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #58

It's criminal how short our memories are. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #61

"The United States of Amnesia" arewenotdemo Aug 2013 #85

So fitting. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #86

how honorably courageous frylock Aug 2013 #65

Whether true or not, the US had better not intervene. It will be a disaster. David__77 Aug 2013 #73

It's a pity that Susan Rice isn't Sec of State elias49 Aug 2013 #77

Recent turns of events sort of strike me as her handiwork. leveymg Aug 2013 #83

How agist karynnj Aug 2013 #93

Not agist.. elias49 Aug 2013 #103

Kerry's ideas are no more "conventional" than Susan Rice's karynnj Aug 2013 #104

The 2003 Iraq Bush/Cheney/Powell comparisons are a false equivalent davidpdx Aug 2013 #98

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #100

Thank you underpants Aug 2013 #102

For more information on where you can join, or organize, anti-war protests Lonr Aug 2013 #99

Yellowcake XemaSab Aug 2013 #105

Dyingchildren onehandle Aug 2013 #106