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happyslug

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35. No one is claiming NOT to use computers, but we are discussing connection from and to the computer
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 03:34 PM
Oct 2013

As to Human Relations Departments, the issue is less to do with people knowledge of computers, but do they know the underlying job. I have known several people who do manual labor, they do NOT need computer skills, neither do Janitors. In higher tech work, you can run into situation where a person will have to be trained on THAT EMPLOYERS computers, and what knowledge he had previously to computers is unimportant.

The US Army did a study many years ago, it took 1000 repetitions to learn to do something, and 1300 repetitions to unlearn one way and learn a new way. In such situations where you have to unteach someone and teach that person how that employer wants it done, the HR Department may opt to go with someone without computer training for he or she will be quicker to learn how that employer wants something done.

As to actual computer knowledge, knowledge of various programs is more important access to the net, thus if a person knows a word processing program, a data base program or similar computer driven data system is more important then connectivity. Thus a student who goes through high school without access to a WI-FI network, the internet or even an Ethernet system, but learned word progressing, data base management, basic math, advance math, basic and advance English will be the first choice of most HR departments over someone who took none of those courses, but has extensive known ledge on how to surf the net. In fact more and more employers are cracking down on surfing the net while working,

Thus, basic knowledge on how a Computer works is all want most employers want of employees as to computer knowledge itself (and most of that can be taught in less then 30 days). What employers want is does the potential employee has the background to grasp what is needed by someone doing the underlying job. In the vast majority of cases that is more important then computer knowledge for most HR departments have the attitude that computer knowledge can be quickly learned if the employee is other wised capable of doing the job. A Laptop with access to WI-Fi, the internet or other connections can provide the student with the background he or she will need in most employment situations.

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Apple has been gouging schools since the early 80's. tridim Oct 2013 #1
The Schools Can't RobinA Oct 2013 #23
I can see the benefits of students having a tablet... penultimate Oct 2013 #27
Why not just buy the linux-equivalent to the ipad for probably half the price? Crowman1979 Oct 2013 #2
Why not "old fashion" laptops???? happyslug Oct 2013 #8
You don't need a modem to access the internet. ET Awful Oct 2013 #9
Books had no "Network" connectivity, but were effective for centuries happyslug Oct 2013 #12
If you were teaching children to function 20 years ago, you'd have a point. ET Awful Oct 2013 #14
Phooey RobinA Oct 2013 #29
Quick - tell me if your HR department would hire someone who didn't know how to use a computer ET Awful Oct 2013 #30
No one is claiming NOT to use computers, but we are discussing connection from and to the computer happyslug Oct 2013 #35
So your argument boils down to ET Awful Oct 2013 #43
The good old days, where the Bible and the Sears catalog vinny9698 Oct 2013 #34
You lost me..... happyslug Oct 2013 #37
Yeah, and nobody need cars or trucks either, they had horsedrawn carriages for centuries ET Awful Oct 2013 #44
I agree, why Apple? They suck. Someone is getting a kickback. nt docgee Oct 2013 #15
Apple has been dominant in schools for decades. onehandle Oct 2013 #22
I don't think so, very limited in my schools and most students wouldn't use them later in life, docgee Oct 2013 #25
heh... wait. But what else should a phone be used for? penultimate Oct 2013 #28
LOL, I guess that's true, but I have the hardest time with docgee Oct 2013 #32
I have similar feelings about iPhones based on my personal usage of them penultimate Oct 2013 #33
Coke/Pepsi products have been dominant in schools for decades Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #26
Apple used to give mad discounts to schools... bobclark86 Oct 2013 #31
An absolute boondoggle. enlightenment Oct 2013 #3
We have an iPad 4 at home NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #6
$400 million could hire more/better teachers. tinrobot Oct 2013 #4
We did that once. Igel Oct 2013 #39
You missed the part where I said "better" tinrobot Oct 2013 #45
Why does buying in bulk cost more? NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #5
Apple products delivered to schools, always include the highest level of service and many extras. onehandle Oct 2013 #7
i"includes curriculum from Pearson Education Inc. that is still being developed"???? happyslug Oct 2013 #10
well there you go - it's Apple + the Pearson Education = boondoggle Locrian Oct 2013 #20
Who said anything about "cheap off brands"? enlightenment Oct 2013 #11
Sorry, you misunderstand the point... brooklynite Oct 2013 #13
Thanks, that helps. onehandle Oct 2013 #17
As the one who started the thread let me say kiva Oct 2013 #41
Perhaps so...but the rest of the thread is the Apple bashing we've come to know and love... brooklynite Oct 2013 #42
I don't see that represented in a $100 markup per student Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #16
Apple does have buyback deals. Especially for iPads, which retain the highest value in tech... onehandle Oct 2013 #21
Forgive me if you're already answered this Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #24
Pearson runs on Flash already. n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #19
Weirdest part... Gore1FL Oct 2013 #18
can they share the cost with another school district to lower the price ? JI7 Oct 2013 #36
It's the other costs that run up ThoughtCriminal Oct 2013 #38
It takes a lot of thought to go one-to-one. Igel Oct 2013 #40
Apple is just continuing the corporate money scam on our schools... blackspade Oct 2013 #46
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