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Igel

(37,193 posts)
40. It takes a lot of thought to go one-to-one.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 08:02 PM
Oct 2013

You have to have your teachers trained.

You need to train your administrators.

You need to train your students.

You need to
have good filters to block unacceptable Internet, with a strong database
have good mechanisms for monitoring and controlling student use, including
devices such as flash drives and wi-fi hotspots
have too procedures in place for monitoring and limiting interstudent communication
have robust software for uploading and organizing student submissions as well as
providing feedback to students for this purpose
have nearly ironclad mechanisms, software and real-world, for ensuring test security
and you have to have nearly real-time updating of all databases used for security,
testing, and student monitoring to accommodate the changes to class rosters that
are constantly happening.

There's nothing like having a test review from one class turned in by students from another class, the teacher's handwriting morphed into typed text.

There's nothing like having a student leave a test room to go pee, only to text a friend, have the friend log in using the student's username/password, and take the test while reviewing notes and the textbook.

You can't beat having a teacher walk away from an unsecured teacher computer, only to have a student use the teacher's username and the password the computer stored to access the online gradebook. Just takes a minute for a lot of failing grades to become solid Cs.

It's great to be giving a test or monitoring students, only to find that the three students who arrived in your class in the last 2 days don't have privileges for your class or can't be monitored because nobody's updated the appropriate file. Even worse, you find that the students who, in the last 10 days, *left* you class are still monitored by you even if they're in another class.

Then there's my favorite: You're mid-class and wifi fails. Suddenly your paperless campus needs to be paperful, but you neither make all the copies you need "just in case" because it's a giant waste of resources, nor can you leave your class to go and get the copies you suddenly need. And the perfect storm is when it happens during the last test before the end of a marking period.

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Apple has been gouging schools since the early 80's. tridim Oct 2013 #1
The Schools Can't RobinA Oct 2013 #23
I can see the benefits of students having a tablet... penultimate Oct 2013 #27
Why not just buy the linux-equivalent to the ipad for probably half the price? Crowman1979 Oct 2013 #2
Why not "old fashion" laptops???? happyslug Oct 2013 #8
You don't need a modem to access the internet. ET Awful Oct 2013 #9
Books had no "Network" connectivity, but were effective for centuries happyslug Oct 2013 #12
If you were teaching children to function 20 years ago, you'd have a point. ET Awful Oct 2013 #14
Phooey RobinA Oct 2013 #29
Quick - tell me if your HR department would hire someone who didn't know how to use a computer ET Awful Oct 2013 #30
No one is claiming NOT to use computers, but we are discussing connection from and to the computer happyslug Oct 2013 #35
So your argument boils down to ET Awful Oct 2013 #43
The good old days, where the Bible and the Sears catalog vinny9698 Oct 2013 #34
You lost me..... happyslug Oct 2013 #37
Yeah, and nobody need cars or trucks either, they had horsedrawn carriages for centuries ET Awful Oct 2013 #44
I agree, why Apple? They suck. Someone is getting a kickback. nt docgee Oct 2013 #15
Apple has been dominant in schools for decades. onehandle Oct 2013 #22
I don't think so, very limited in my schools and most students wouldn't use them later in life, docgee Oct 2013 #25
heh... wait. But what else should a phone be used for? penultimate Oct 2013 #28
LOL, I guess that's true, but I have the hardest time with docgee Oct 2013 #32
I have similar feelings about iPhones based on my personal usage of them penultimate Oct 2013 #33
Coke/Pepsi products have been dominant in schools for decades Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #26
Apple used to give mad discounts to schools... bobclark86 Oct 2013 #31
An absolute boondoggle. enlightenment Oct 2013 #3
We have an iPad 4 at home NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #6
$400 million could hire more/better teachers. tinrobot Oct 2013 #4
We did that once. Igel Oct 2013 #39
You missed the part where I said "better" tinrobot Oct 2013 #45
Why does buying in bulk cost more? NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #5
Apple products delivered to schools, always include the highest level of service and many extras. onehandle Oct 2013 #7
i"includes curriculum from Pearson Education Inc. that is still being developed"???? happyslug Oct 2013 #10
well there you go - it's Apple + the Pearson Education = boondoggle Locrian Oct 2013 #20
Who said anything about "cheap off brands"? enlightenment Oct 2013 #11
Sorry, you misunderstand the point... brooklynite Oct 2013 #13
Thanks, that helps. onehandle Oct 2013 #17
As the one who started the thread let me say kiva Oct 2013 #41
Perhaps so...but the rest of the thread is the Apple bashing we've come to know and love... brooklynite Oct 2013 #42
I don't see that represented in a $100 markup per student Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #16
Apple does have buyback deals. Especially for iPads, which retain the highest value in tech... onehandle Oct 2013 #21
Forgive me if you're already answered this Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #24
Pearson runs on Flash already. n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #19
Weirdest part... Gore1FL Oct 2013 #18
can they share the cost with another school district to lower the price ? JI7 Oct 2013 #36
It's the other costs that run up ThoughtCriminal Oct 2013 #38
It takes a lot of thought to go one-to-one. Igel Oct 2013 #40
Apple is just continuing the corporate money scam on our schools... blackspade Oct 2013 #46
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