Ukraine crisis: Canada, U.S. tell Russia to withdraw forces

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24. Nope. Apples and Oranges. Their history goes back before this was a country.

I thought of that as I typed it, believe me.

About Crimea:

Crimea (/kraɪˈmiːə/) is a peninsula of Ukraine located on the northern coast of the Black Sea. The Autonomous Republic of Crimea (Russian: Автономная Республика Крым, Avtonomnaya Respublika Krym; Ukrainian: Автономна Республіка Крим, Avtonomna Respublika Krym; Crimean Tatar: Qırım Muhtar Cumhuriyeti, Къырым Мухтар Джумхуриети ) occupies most of the peninsula.[5][6][7] It is widely referred to with the definite article, as the Crimea.

The Cimmerians, Bulgars, Greeks, Scythians, Goths, Huns, Khazars, the state of Kievan Rus', Byzantine Greeks, Kipchaks, Ottoman Turks, Golden Horde Tatars and the Mongols all controlled Crimea in its earlier history. In the 13th century, it was partly controlled by the Venetians and by the Genoese; they were followed by the Crimean Khanate and the Ottoman Empire in the 15th to 18th centuries, the Russian Empire in the 18th to 20th centuries, Germany during World War II and the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic and later the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, within the Soviet Union during the rest of the 20th century.

Crimea is an autonomous parliamentary republic within Ukraine[5] and is governed by the Constitution of Crimea in accordance with the laws of Ukraine. The capital and administrative seat of the republic's government is the city of Simferopol, located in the center of the peninsula. Crimea's area is 26,200 square kilometres (10,100 sq mi) and its population was 1,973,185 as of 2007. These figures do not include the area and population of the City of Sevastopol (2007 population: 379,200), which is administratively separate from the autonomous republic. The peninsula thus has 2,352,385 people (2007 estimate).

Crimean Tatars, an ethnic minority who in 2001 made up 12% of the population,[8] formed in Crimea in the late Middle Ages, after the Crimean Khanate had come into existence. The Crimean Tatars were forcibly expelled to Central Asia by Joseph Stalin's government. After the fall of the Soviet Union, Crimean Tatars began to return to the region.[9] According to the 2001 Ukrainian population census 58% of the population of Crimea are ethnic Russians and 24% are ethnic Ukrainians.[8] The region has the highest proportion of Muslims in Ukraine.[10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

Historically, the region has been in many hands, and was never anything like the states that committed treason against the USA were. The South was created as part of the USA after leaving the British empire. It was never a region that had a right to secede, especially for the despicable reasons that they did, which are well-documented.

We had a civil war over the notion of owning slaves based on racism and that is not what is going on Ukraine. I see validity in the government in Kiev, and the one in Crimea.

It was tossed at Ukraine for what Stalin did, was long held by the Russians, prior to the USSR coming into existance. If you want to go the road taht the South should get to leave and keep on stealing the lives of others, there is an OP you might find interesting:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024586332

Americans cannot afford to let them govern themselves, exist on our border and provoke conflicts. The ones who want to go this road are robbers and criminals in any sense of the word to the entire world.

If that sounds harsh, it is meant to be. I am not in favor of region bashing, and I am from the South myself. It has its virtues, but the GOP running most of it do not, and the sooner they and their Tenthers and Rand Pauls are put out to pasture, the better for us and the world at large.

JMHO.