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In reply to the discussion: Ukraine crisis: Canada, U.S. tell Russia to withdraw forces [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)27. Why should it be? The oil won't go to the USA, period. Straight through to China from Canada:
President Obama Ruptures John Boehners Pipeline of Keystone XL Lies
By Jason Easley - July, 28, 2013

President Obama went on the offensive in a New York Times interview, and appeared to argue against Keystone XL by debunking the Republicans pipeline talking points...
Obama ripped apart every single one of House Speaker John Boehners Keystone XL lies. Boehners office is still putting out press releases claiming that the pipeline will create 20,000-100,000 jobs...
Barely a week goes by without Speaker Boehner whining about the need to approve Keystone XL right now. What Rep. Boehner never tells anyone when he discusses the project is that he stands to personally benefit from its approval. Boehner is invested in seven tar sands companies that will benefit from the pipelines construction. This is why Boehner keeps lying about the values and virtues of Keystone.
It is clear that the president isnt buying any of what Boehner is selling on the pipeline. In fact, Obama is pushing back against the Speakers propaganda campaign.The president appears to see the pipeline for what it really is, a gift to Big Oil. Keystone wont create jobs. It wont bring gas prices down, and the pipeline definitely isnt a path to energy independence....
Full transcript at the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/28/us/politics/interview-with-president-obama.html?pagewanted=5&_r=1&adxnnlx=1375034512-jesnPnyWl3Mr7Evr7p7xgQ&
Full article here:
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/28/obama-boehner-keystone.html
to Tx4Obama:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101669740
Of course, it wasn't on MSM, so it never happened. It should been on the front page of DU last year. I appreciate it being posted now, as the Koch brothers continue to raise hell. Let's not forget Paul Ryan's threats last year when Obama refused to approve it:
Paul Ryan Threatens To Blow Up The Economy Unless Obama Approves Keystone XL.
By Jason Easley - December, 18, 2013

...According to The Hill, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) suggested tying approval of the Keystone pipeline to raising the debt ceiling Monday night. Weve never just done nothing, Ryan said on the Hugh Hewitt radio show, which was being guest-hosted by Rep. John Campbell (R-Calif.), when asked how Republicans would handle the debt-ceiling negotiations. We want to make sure that were taking steps in the direction of fiscal conservatism, of fiscal responsibility. I, for one, think we need to do more in the energy sector. I believe we need to approve Keystone pipeline.
The White House has already responded to Ryan by repeating for the billionth time that they arent going to negotiate on the debt ceiling. Of all the things that Ryan could have asked for the only things he would be less likely to get is privatization of Social Security/Medicare, and repeal of the ACA.
The Obama administration still hasnt approved Keystone XL, and Ryans tactics suggest that Republicans believe that he isnt going to. Ryan believes that Keystone must be approved because it is an example of GOP policy at its worst. Keystone poses a grave environmental risk. It wont create jobs. It wont help the economy, and it will do nothing to help make the country more energy independent.
What Keystone XL will do is make more money for the Koch brothers and big oil...
More at the link:
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/12/18/paul-ryan-threatens-blow-economy-obama-appoves-keystone-xl.html
The Koch brothers have also been tying up Amtrack routes used by passengers and other businesses by shipping this crud on the rails, endangering communities on the way and also causing American businesses to shutter who depend on freight by rail to get their goods to market.
They are not giving up, their money talks big, and even Charles Koch is now being forced to speak in public. It's a long road ahead and I'm glad Obama is at the helm. There is no reason to give the Koch brothers $100 Billion when we see the mischief they have been promoting.
Although some Democrats are talking against Obama for not approving it, such as pundit Ed Schultz and (maybe presidential contender) from MT, Brian Schweitzer.
I'd say it's why he's pushed so hard for alternatives and has not said no to anything that won't affect climate. There is another article in which PBO has tied Keystone to climate change. Both the links are worth the read.
By Jason Easley - July, 28, 2013

President Obama went on the offensive in a New York Times interview, and appeared to argue against Keystone XL by debunking the Republicans pipeline talking points...
Obama ripped apart every single one of House Speaker John Boehners Keystone XL lies. Boehners office is still putting out press releases claiming that the pipeline will create 20,000-100,000 jobs...
Barely a week goes by without Speaker Boehner whining about the need to approve Keystone XL right now. What Rep. Boehner never tells anyone when he discusses the project is that he stands to personally benefit from its approval. Boehner is invested in seven tar sands companies that will benefit from the pipelines construction. This is why Boehner keeps lying about the values and virtues of Keystone.
It is clear that the president isnt buying any of what Boehner is selling on the pipeline. In fact, Obama is pushing back against the Speakers propaganda campaign.The president appears to see the pipeline for what it really is, a gift to Big Oil. Keystone wont create jobs. It wont bring gas prices down, and the pipeline definitely isnt a path to energy independence....
Full transcript at the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/28/us/politics/interview-with-president-obama.html?pagewanted=5&_r=1&adxnnlx=1375034512-jesnPnyWl3Mr7Evr7p7xgQ&
Full article here:
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/28/obama-boehner-keystone.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101669740
Of course, it wasn't on MSM, so it never happened. It should been on the front page of DU last year. I appreciate it being posted now, as the Koch brothers continue to raise hell. Let's not forget Paul Ryan's threats last year when Obama refused to approve it:
Paul Ryan Threatens To Blow Up The Economy Unless Obama Approves Keystone XL.
By Jason Easley - December, 18, 2013

...According to The Hill, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) suggested tying approval of the Keystone pipeline to raising the debt ceiling Monday night. Weve never just done nothing, Ryan said on the Hugh Hewitt radio show, which was being guest-hosted by Rep. John Campbell (R-Calif.), when asked how Republicans would handle the debt-ceiling negotiations. We want to make sure that were taking steps in the direction of fiscal conservatism, of fiscal responsibility. I, for one, think we need to do more in the energy sector. I believe we need to approve Keystone pipeline.
The White House has already responded to Ryan by repeating for the billionth time that they arent going to negotiate on the debt ceiling. Of all the things that Ryan could have asked for the only things he would be less likely to get is privatization of Social Security/Medicare, and repeal of the ACA.
The Obama administration still hasnt approved Keystone XL, and Ryans tactics suggest that Republicans believe that he isnt going to. Ryan believes that Keystone must be approved because it is an example of GOP policy at its worst. Keystone poses a grave environmental risk. It wont create jobs. It wont help the economy, and it will do nothing to help make the country more energy independent.
What Keystone XL will do is make more money for the Koch brothers and big oil...
More at the link:
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/12/18/paul-ryan-threatens-blow-economy-obama-appoves-keystone-xl.html
The Koch brothers have also been tying up Amtrack routes used by passengers and other businesses by shipping this crud on the rails, endangering communities on the way and also causing American businesses to shutter who depend on freight by rail to get their goods to market.
They are not giving up, their money talks big, and even Charles Koch is now being forced to speak in public. It's a long road ahead and I'm glad Obama is at the helm. There is no reason to give the Koch brothers $100 Billion when we see the mischief they have been promoting.
Although some Democrats are talking against Obama for not approving it, such as pundit Ed Schultz and (maybe presidential contender) from MT, Brian Schweitzer.
I'd say it's why he's pushed so hard for alternatives and has not said no to anything that won't affect climate. There is another article in which PBO has tied Keystone to climate change. Both the links are worth the read.
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Good catch! The First World War was going to be quick and easy too . . .
another_liberal
Mar 2014
#7
Well, we can't afford to take care of our veterans. So we left the door open for them to take it up.
freshwest
Mar 2014
#17
If they believe 'the Ukrainian people must be free to determine their own future' and some want to
freshwest
Mar 2014
#14
So, if the Southern Republicans want to form another Confederate States, that's okay with you?
brooklynite
Mar 2014
#23
Why should it be? The oil won't go to the USA, period. Straight through to China from Canada:
freshwest
Mar 2014
#27