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amandabeech

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13. I visited Lithuania in 1995, and was able to talk to quite a few Lithuanians.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:17 PM
Mar 2014

There were many Russians still in that country despite the fact that Lithuania had broken away from the USSR/Russia in '91 or '92. Russians were importing Fiats through the port of Kleipeida (sp) that the Germans called "Memel" that were similar to their Fiat-built Lada, an inexpensive car. Plus a lot of Russians seemed to want to stay in their home no matter who was running the government.

My friend and I got lots of questions about whether the US would come to their aid if Russia decided to grab them back. They pointed at our failure to help the Chechens defend themselves against Russia.

My friend and I pointed out that Chechnya is deep inside Russia and Asia and would be very difficult for the US to access. We also pointed out that there are many Lithanian-Americans (Chicago is the big hub), and that Lithuanians are our European cousins, so to speak. The Lithuanians weren't convinced.

My understanding is that there are still large communities of Russians in each of the three Baltic states--Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia--who could conceivably claim that they were threatened, and call for help from Mother Russia.

The Baltics are NATO countries, and I don't see how beefing up the NATO presence in those countries would be such a bad thing. Really, Putin could not expect NATO to do absolutely nothing in NATO countries abutting Russia or Ukraine. I don't mean a big show of force, but something to show that NATO appreciates their particular situation. Should Russia move further into Ukraine, a larger presence would be appropriate, IMHO.

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NATO will be what ultimately stops Putin if he has bigger designs. TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #1
Ukraine had already worked out a non-member cooperation with NATO. They were doing training okaawhatever Mar 2014 #22
Romania already has a deal Baclava Mar 2014 #2
I can't help but Berlin Expat Mar 2014 #6
I think he held back on a missile defense phase, and now it's a new bargaining chip-- TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #8
Good question as to Berlin Expat Mar 2014 #12
There were several things happening during the next year or two that would have put NATO and okaawhatever Mar 2014 #23
Like to guess who will be asked to pay for an almost useless . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #17
If I recall correctly, Kyrgyzstan was kicking us out because Putin TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #7
Yes, that's the case. Russia allowed it for a while because they're enemies with Afghanistan and the okaawhatever Mar 2014 #24
Are Europeans Upset about Putin? chuckstevens Mar 2014 #3
They want and need Russian natural gas. Laelth Mar 2014 #10
Good Point chuckstevens Mar 2014 #11
Actually, the U.S. is a natural gas exporter now. The Stranger Mar 2014 #19
Feel free to built a pipeline. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #25
I think they liquefy and ship it. The Stranger Mar 2014 #33
They do / are able to do so dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #35
Because if the Ukraine dissolves into civil war then Europe gets to pick up the bits fedsron2us Mar 2014 #16
Quoting the Rupert Murdoch's "War Street Journal" without comment? rdharma Mar 2014 #4
of course I am steve2470 Mar 2014 #5
Thanks, and we should make, elleng Mar 2014 #14
Depending on the source, news coverage and analysis are often pretty much the same. rdharma Mar 2014 #18
Yes, of course. elleng Mar 2014 #21
I visited Lithuania in 1995, and was able to talk to quite a few Lithuanians. amandabeech Mar 2014 #13
I was in Latvia and the same holds true. tavernier Mar 2014 #45
Thanks for posting. amandabeech Mar 2014 #46
Everyone says it is his KGB background. tavernier Mar 2014 #48
We can only hope. amandabeech Mar 2014 #49
But you've recommended articles from Russia Today. Do you think Russia Today is a legitimate okaawhatever Mar 2014 #28
"Murdoch doesn't own the WSJ" rdharma Mar 2014 #40
Yes, actually I was confused for a minute. I was thinking of WaPo. But why do you trust Russia Today okaawhatever Mar 2014 #42
More detailed info on what is going on in Ukraine. rdharma Mar 2014 #43
Bear in mind dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #9
"The scam didn't go too well with Russia." EX500rider Mar 2014 #29
so you know more than missile defense experts? You're the ultimate voice in whether the okaawhatever Mar 2014 #30
Didn't go down to well dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #32
that wasn't the point you made. You called it a "joke" and a "scam". What makes it a joke, or okaawhatever Mar 2014 #36
The selling line for it dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #38
That's what the first three phases were for. It was the fourth phase that was questionable due to okaawhatever Mar 2014 #41
The Baltics Have A Reason To Fear Russian Expansionism DallasNE Mar 2014 #15
How much worse can the Ukraine situation get? The Stranger Mar 2014 #20
Much worse? EX500rider Mar 2014 #26
A civil war shouldn't be a likely outcome. Ethnic Russians only make up 17% of the population. It okaawhatever Mar 2014 #37
A few minutes ago on CNN, either Anderson Cooper or his guest, amandabeech Mar 2014 #27
Merkel is the one who would be least likely to make that statement. Remember, Germany sided with okaawhatever Mar 2014 #31
I found the story in the Guardian, but frankly, I'm so upset that I can't seem amandabeech Mar 2014 #34
Wow thanks for that. There's nothing more dangerous than someone okaawhatever Mar 2014 #39
I'm seeing coverage on CNN, Al Jazeera, WaPo, NYT at British papers. amandabeech Mar 2014 #44
Indeed scary... Deep North Mar 2014 #47
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