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Purveyor

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Wed May 14, 2014, 01:33 PM May 2014

Ukraine Slides Deeper Toward War as Russia Warns on Vote [View all]

Source: Bloomberg

By Daryna Krasnolutska, Daria Marchak and Ryan Chilcote May 14, 2014 9:33 AM ET

Ukraine “is as close to civil war as you can get,” and a solution to the crisis must satisfy its regions, Russia said, after eastern rebels ambushed a Ukrainian army convoy in the deadliest blow in their campaign to secede.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said there is a “real war” in eastern and southern Ukraine, where more than 30 attackers struck a convoy yesterday near the city of Kramatorsk, killing at least six paratroopers. Having accused Russia of supporting separatists with its special forces and saboteurs, Ukrainian acting Defense Minister Mykhaylo Koval said the two countries were embroiled in an “undeclared war.”

The ambush was the rebels’ deadliest attack against Ukraine’s military since they began a campaign to secede after Russia annexed Crimea in March. The battle came after separatists in Luhansk and Donetsk agreed to join forces to confront the central government. Casualties included “quite a number” of “self-defense” fighters killed by artillery and mortars, which may complicate a May 25 presidential election.

“When Ukrainians kill Ukrainians, I believe it’s as close to civil war as you can get,” Lavrov told Bloomberg Television in an interview in Moscow. “In the east and south of Ukraine, there is a war, a real war, with heavy weaponry used, and if this is something that is conducive to free and fair elections, then I don’t understand something about freedom.”



Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-14/ukraine-slides-deeper-toward-war-as-russia-warns-on-vote.html



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Elsehwere you will find dipsydoodle May 2014 #1
No one is suggesting that NATO wants them to join karynnj May 2014 #3
Random link to subject here dipsydoodle May 2014 #9
And only a minority want to break up Ukraine. There are 6 EU countries not in NATO. pampango May 2014 #7
Ukraine is now close to having a trade agreement with the EU : dipsydoodle May 2014 #10
I agree about their very slim chance of joining the EU but some here think it is imminent, pampango May 2014 #26
If this keeps up.... balthazar2 May 2014 #2
We haven't been out of it since the beginning. n/t jtuck004 May 2014 #6
The US has not yet invaded Ukraine with troops. balthazar2 May 2014 #11
Working with groups that depose an elected leader is just as military jtuck004 May 2014 #12
Covert operations is war by other means. JackRiddler May 2014 #18
Hey Jack! Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #22
I appreciate the kicks! JackRiddler May 2014 #23
Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #24
Funny, your Yanukovich obsession... JackRiddler May 2014 #25
Okay. Seriously, is there something wrong with your congitive abilities? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #27
Kong-itive, you say? JackRiddler May 2014 #28
Okay, let me try this a different way. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #29
You don't get to frame this. JackRiddler May 2014 #30
And Putin has not reacted the way they presumed and hoped he would..... go west young man May 2014 #37
It was a pretty open-ended question. How and why did Yanukovych leave Ukraine in February 2014? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #45
You are pushing the conspiracy theory JackRiddler May 2014 #46
Biggest miscalculation of the CIA cosmicone May 2014 #4
Maybe they could borrow the "Welcome America" signs that "he" said the Iraqi's would display? n/t jtuck004 May 2014 #8
how many more must die for Putin's "New Russia" designs on Europe? uhnope May 2014 #5
"New Russia" actually refers to a portion of what is now Ukraine. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #13
xcept that Putin himself said. "“The question is to ensure the rights and interests of the Russian s LanternWaste May 2014 #14
Todays generation of Russian's mainly use the term go west young man May 2014 #15
Novorossiya Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #17
What you post is for yourself....and Americans who have a Cold War mentality and go west young man May 2014 #20
That's not the New Russia we're talking about here. Putin wasn't talking about it either. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #21
Thanks for telling me how it is.... go west young man May 2014 #38
That's the Putin quote. Just the proper context of "Novorossiya"/"New Russia" here. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #44
Ah, just continue to let him continue to be ignorant davidpdx May 2014 #42
Great videos! ballyhoo May 2014 #19
FYI: RBTH is the Kremlin. moondust May 2014 #36
Yes it is.... go west young man May 2014 #39
So "Americans who have a Cold War mentality and moondust May 2014 #40
If I had a dollar for every DU'er who labeled me as Russian go west young man May 2014 #41
If we had a dollar for every time a DU'er was labeled as "Americans who have a Cold War mentality pampango May 2014 #43
And it was Ukraine before it was controlled by the Russians. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #16
Can you be a bit more open about your JackRiddler May 2014 #31
Kiev was Russian before Moscow was founded independentpiney May 2014 #32
It was Rusian. Igel May 2014 #34
I stand corrected Rusian nt independentpiney May 2014 #35
The way borders have changed over the centuries in Europe and Asia pampango May 2014 #33
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