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In reply to the discussion: Ukraine Slides Deeper Toward War as Russia Warns on Vote [View all]Tommy_Carcetti
(44,038 posts)17. Novorossiya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiya
Novorossiya (Russian: Новоро́ссия, Ukrainian: Новоросія, Romanian: Noua Rusie; literally New Russia) was a historical term used by Russia denoting an area north of the Black Sea, part of the historical region (presently a nation-state republic) of Ukraine, which was conquered by the Russian Empire at the end of the 18th century, and remained under the control of the Russian Empire until 1917. In modern terms this historic territory overlaid what is now Donetsk Oblast, small portions of Luhansk Oblast, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, Zaporizhia Oblast, Mykolaiv Oblast, Kherson Oblast, Odessa Oblast and Crimea in Ukraine, Krasnodar Krai, Stavropol Krai, Rostov Oblast, and the Republic of Adygea in Russia.
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"I would like to remind you that this is Novorossiya - the term used back in the tsarist epoch. Kharkiv, Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson, Odessa were not part of Ukraine in the tsarist epoch. These are the territories which were turned over to Ukraine by the former Soviet government in the 1920s. God knows what they did that for.
All this dates back to the victories won by tsarist Russia in notorious wars in the epoch of Catherine the Great and Prince Potyomkin with the center in Novorossiysk; hence the name- Novorossiya. Then for different reasons these territories were lost, but the people remained. "
Vladimir Putin, April 17, 2014
Novorossiya (Russian: Новоро́ссия, Ukrainian: Новоросія, Romanian: Noua Rusie; literally New Russia) was a historical term used by Russia denoting an area north of the Black Sea, part of the historical region (presently a nation-state republic) of Ukraine, which was conquered by the Russian Empire at the end of the 18th century, and remained under the control of the Russian Empire until 1917. In modern terms this historic territory overlaid what is now Donetsk Oblast, small portions of Luhansk Oblast, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, Zaporizhia Oblast, Mykolaiv Oblast, Kherson Oblast, Odessa Oblast and Crimea in Ukraine, Krasnodar Krai, Stavropol Krai, Rostov Oblast, and the Republic of Adygea in Russia.
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"I would like to remind you that this is Novorossiya - the term used back in the tsarist epoch. Kharkiv, Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson, Odessa were not part of Ukraine in the tsarist epoch. These are the territories which were turned over to Ukraine by the former Soviet government in the 1920s. God knows what they did that for.
All this dates back to the victories won by tsarist Russia in notorious wars in the epoch of Catherine the Great and Prince Potyomkin with the center in Novorossiysk; hence the name- Novorossiya. Then for different reasons these territories were lost, but the people remained. "
Vladimir Putin, April 17, 2014
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And only a minority want to break up Ukraine. There are 6 EU countries not in NATO.
pampango
May 2014
#7
I agree about their very slim chance of joining the EU but some here think it is imminent,
pampango
May 2014
#26
Okay. Seriously, is there something wrong with your congitive abilities?
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#27
And Putin has not reacted the way they presumed and hoped he would.....
go west young man
May 2014
#37
It was a pretty open-ended question. How and why did Yanukovych leave Ukraine in February 2014?
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#45
Maybe they could borrow the "Welcome America" signs that "he" said the Iraqi's would display? n/t
jtuck004
May 2014
#8
xcept that Putin himself said. "“The question is to ensure the rights and interests of the Russian s
LanternWaste
May 2014
#14
What you post is for yourself....and Americans who have a Cold War mentality and
go west young man
May 2014
#20
That's not the New Russia we're talking about here. Putin wasn't talking about it either.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#21
That's the Putin quote. Just the proper context of "Novorossiya"/"New Russia" here.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#44