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Uncle Joe

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43. The U.S. is for stability, but that can come in one of two ways.

Sat Jul 19, 2014, 10:57 PM

Jul 2014

1. Iraq's government introduces major reforms becoming more inclusive to the Sunni and Kurd Side, while granting more autonomy for the regions, should that happen the U.S. will more aggressively help the Iraqi government win against the most committed holdouts with Iraq remaining as one stable nation.

2. Maliki balks at political reforms and Iraq goes through a long, bitter civil war with much bloodletting, ending in a rough stalemate after enough killing has been done and suffering experienced, Iraq will divide into three more stable nations as borders are redrawn and the sharing of oil resources are negotiated between the parties.

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Islamic State Overwhelms Iraqi Forces at Tikrit in Major Defeat [View all] Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 OP

what side are we on? quadrature Jul 2014 #1

I thought our government was supporting the FSA cstanleytech Jul 2014 #2

It's complicated but the outcome is simple. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #13

Hmmmmm! good question. mazzarro Jul 2014 #4

Maybe the best solution is to stay out all together. former9thward Jul 2014 #31

We don't really know. bemildred Jul 2014 #8

We've managed to help our allies and hurt our foes ... Igel Jul 2014 #9

To quote Richard III... Chan790 Jul 2014 #25

I'm pro-Kurd. aquart Jul 2014 #26

The U.S. is for stability, but that can come in one of two ways. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #43

Just think, the reason Republicans said we stayed there for so long was to train these losers.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #3

Don't ask chimpy. He's busy painting himself naked in his bathroom. Amonester Jul 2014 #5

Is there a tower at his place? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #17

Some of the fighting is being borne by ill trained teenage Shia's Kaleva Jul 2014 #7

Reminds me of the Iran Iraq war in the 80s. Same stuff 7962 Jul 2014 #11

More info on the volunteer cannon fodder Kaleva Jul 2014 #12

On the bright side,... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #18

Yep. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #14

When we invaded Iraq was recovering from the loss of a generation of fighting age men.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #21

Yes, he was such a threat to peace, right? Meanwhile, right next door in Syria....... 7962 Jul 2014 #23

That map of Iraqi oil fields looked scrumptious. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #24

And they were too stupid to even get THAT right. We dont even get the oil!! 7962 Jul 2014 #27

Wanna know the truth? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #30

Which BTW is the same excuse we are staying in Afghanistan. former9thward Jul 2014 #32

Naw, the reason Iraq is failing is because our puppet aligned with Iran.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #33

Mission accomplished! Botany Jul 2014 #6

Thanks again, Dick Cheney!! 7962 Jul 2014 #10

"a tactical alliance with Syria and Iran to get rid of these guys." Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #15

No. But we could cooperate against a common foe. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #20

Fuck Holy Wars.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #34

When does Maliki go into exile? He needs to go, period. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #16

That is not going to make ISIS go away Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #19

No, it won't. Maliki leaving is necessary but not sufficient. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #22

Thanks. Hamas knocked Iraq out the headlines here. aquart Jul 2014 #28

Jihadistan. That's the new name for this "country". roamer65 Jul 2014 #29

Yeah,...we need to pick a religious side and have them wipe out the others. That'll do it. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #35

We may have to back the sane ones, Spitfire. roamer65 Jul 2014 #36

I must have missed the Hour Of Hate covering ISIS.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #37

You should read up about these guys. They're barbaric and ambitious. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #39

Yeah, and if there's one thing we hate even more it's the Judean People's Front.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #41

Okay, don't worry about it. It's all good. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #45

Pul-eeze.... Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #46

I hear the IDF pays well for social media propaganda. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #47

Thank you for that nonsequtor. Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #48

We now have Erdogan of Turkey likening Israel to Hitler. roamer65 Jul 2014 #38

Link to another article with more info on the state of Iraqi military Kaleva Jul 2014 #40

This is what you get with privatization of Military operations happyslug Jul 2014 #42

Well, somebody's getting what they wanted..... DeSwiss Jul 2014 #44