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ieoeja

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26. "The War on Drugs has killed more police officers than anything else." - retired Chicago Cop
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 12:32 PM
Apr 2012

He said pretty much the same thing you said. Early in his career he never gave a second thought to pulling over a car. He sure as hell didn't put his hand on his pistol ready to draw and fire. There were times he would find a suitcase (!) full of drugs, confiscate it and poke fun at the guy he was taking it from who would just laugh (sadly) and go his way.

Later in his career if he found a baggie of pot the gun came out right away. This guy is as Rightist as they come. But he learned from experience that people had become far more violent when faced with extreme punishments.


I almost wonder if that 25% increase in 2011 could be from Chicago alone. In a typical year, Chicago has zero cops killed by a perpetrator. One day last year some guy the cops took in for questioning ran into a cop outside as he was leaving the police station, grabbed his gun and killed him. Over the course of the next few weeks there was an orgy of cop killings. They even started putting up graffiti along the lines of, "we kill cops here," and the like.

The badge and uniform of invincibility disappeared putting cops at the same risk as the rest of us.

I had that argument with cops before, pointing out that *I* risked my life more than they did every time I walked out the door. The cop killings, oddly, brought a couple of them to see my point. When a bunch of them *did* get killed over a few weeks, it sunk in just how unusual that was. Conversely, they think nothing about far more non-police officers being killed in that same time frame because that is normal.

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Law of unintended consequences.... peacebird Apr 2012 #1
That's what happens when criminals are released from prison too soon. nt Remmah2 Apr 2012 #21
Another facet to this is the militarization of police departments. jtuck004 Apr 2012 #2
You are correct (n/t) Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #3
it's harder to shoot someone when you know their name? Skittles Apr 2012 #4
Well, I am FUCKING talking about the connection to people that some have. jtuck004 Apr 2012 #6
please Skittles Apr 2012 #9
There's some evidence it's true. caseymoz Apr 2012 #14
Yes, yes yes duhneece Apr 2012 #20
Don't forget those who give the orders. caseymoz Apr 2012 #28
bunch of gobbledegook pasto76 Apr 2012 #7
CORRECT Skittles Apr 2012 #10
Must have learned to like sand, given that the above opinions sound like jtuck004 Apr 2012 #12
Baloney. Police respond to peaceful protests with chemicals weapons EFerrari Apr 2012 #13
Militarized BeGoodDoGood Apr 2012 #19
How do you picture a SWAT team? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #25
So unless they act EXACTLY like your unit in Iraq, they're not militarized? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2012 #27
"Police officer" is just a label. ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #5
Maybe if the police don't go all George Zimmermann usrname Apr 2012 #8
Frankly, I would love to understand the circumstances behind each of these deaths MrScorpio Apr 2012 #11
As violent crime has decreased across the country? Really? fasttense Apr 2012 #15
Can you show how Bush changed crime stats? hack89 Apr 2012 #16
Yes BeGoodDoGood Apr 2012 #18
Simple leftynyc Apr 2012 #17
Looking back a little farther, that number doesn't show any obvious trend slackmaster Apr 2012 #22
Four Officers Wounded in Shootout Remmah2 Apr 2012 #23
It would be gross understatement to say that they're asking for it... saras Apr 2012 #24
"The War on Drugs has killed more police officers than anything else." - retired Chicago Cop ieoeja Apr 2012 #26
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