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karlmarx1947

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47. Of Course: Almost No American Elections are Prima Facia Honest
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 11:13 PM
Dec 2016

I cannot think of an election from Kenedy/Nixon where Illinois may have been thrown where an incumbent wasn't running for a second term which wasn't thrown one way or another either by inadequate equipment, voter suppression, outright fraud, hacking or other methods. The reasons why this is so commonplace here in at least modern times is the stakes are very high in a Presidential Election and requiring voting is not enforced. If like Australia we required eligible voters to participate and fined people $50.00 if they didn't problems would largely evaporate other than making our creaky validation system up to date. Why people are so concerned about evident potential fraud and hacking in elections is a defect of having a President elected directly by the population when the vote is close. In a close election majority rule here means 1/2 the population approximately is disenfranchised. In a Parliamentary system the government would have to be run by a coalition and this near half of the population who voted for the minority would have a voice. The electoral college compounds the situation if you believe in majority rule. I am not sure I do but here there Trump lost by about 1-2% but not in the majority of electoral votes. Presidential System generally end in authoritarian rule at some point and I suspect the U.S. like most Latin Countries and Russia will follow suit shortly.

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This serves the Republicans. yallerdawg Nov 2016 #1
yep-- let's all pledge solidarity to defeating this horrible excuse for a political party Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #5
Voter suppression is number one SHRED Nov 2016 #2
agree - and, over the next 4 years NewJeffCT Nov 2016 #19
Republican lock down SHRED Nov 2016 #23
Voter suppression isn't going to be addressed by a Trump administration. meadowlander Dec 2016 #37
I'm not a big fan of Milbank Blue Idaho Nov 2016 #3
he's actually been really good lately. He had a piece yesterday about Trump being in thrall to Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #6
Really? Blue Idaho Nov 2016 #7
here Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #12
Thanks! nt. Blue Idaho Nov 2016 #14
Agreed! hueymahl Nov 2016 #4
imho, this is our central failure. mopinko Nov 2016 #8
you said it.... dhill926 Nov 2016 #34
I have this plan. Javaman Nov 2016 #9
Or a birth certificate. ginnyinWI Nov 2016 #11
Senior American citizens all receive their ss benefits, that should be enough ID to vote. Sunlei Nov 2016 #15
Not for long I'm afraid pangaia Nov 2016 #35
In Oregon and now California (I think) they have automatic voter registration Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #13
Hence heavily Democratic Legislatures. Ligyron Nov 2016 #22
Dem legislatures out in such measures which help keep Dems in power Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #24
KnR Hekate Nov 2016 #10
"And they arguably suppressed enough minority voters to cost Clinton the election." Coyotl Nov 2016 #16
BINGO! mountain grammy Nov 2016 #18
And yet another journalist-penguin jumps into the shark infested water, representing the WaPo McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 #17
Now voter supression will become entrenched in the USA. world wide wally Nov 2016 #20
I hope this gets some play... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #21
Good editorial Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2016 #25
I don't freaking buy it... blue sky at night Nov 2016 #26
Millions of voters had their registrations purged and millions of others pnwmom Nov 2016 #27
oh dear............ blue sky at night Nov 2016 #30
Did you check your voter registration before you went to vote? pnwmom Nov 2016 #31
I did do that... blue sky at night Nov 2016 #33
I voted absentee too bdamomma Dec 2016 #40
Nice troll but many of the purges were perpetrated DAYS before the election lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #45
I think the point meadowlander Dec 2016 #38
Too Few Permitted Votes for Hillary? kebob Nov 2016 #28
Thom Hartmann and Greg Palast have been focusing on this issue for a hell of a long time! Akamai Nov 2016 #29
Are we certain there are unopened provisional votes? pnwmom Nov 2016 #32
some places dont count them if there are not enough to change the winner. mopinko Dec 2016 #36
when elections are won and lost by small margins... tomp Dec 2016 #39
That's not the Republican way, and that party -- not the Dems -- are whole heartedly Akamai Dec 2016 #43
if you can go to prison for voting more than once... yurbud Dec 2016 #41
you should go to prison for purging votes on false pretenses yurbud Dec 2016 #42
"counties previously covered by the Voting Rights Act have closed down at least 868 polling places" Bill USA Dec 2016 #44
Everyone should be automatically registered to vote. paigeatemyshoes Dec 2016 #46
Of Course: Almost No American Elections are Prima Facia Honest karlmarx1947 Dec 2016 #47
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