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JohnSJ

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4. Excuse me. Labor did split the vote. Latinos split the vote,. Women didn't come out in the numbers expected,
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 11:11 AM
Mar 2025

and of course the anti-Israeli protesters especially in the swing states refused to vote for Harris, and whet out of their way to encourage others to do likewise.

Not unlike what happened in the swing states when the self-identified progressives refused to vote for Hillary in the general election in 2016, and it didn’t take much.

In every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while Jill Stein received 1% in those critical swing states.

and not surprisingly the Nina Turners, Cornell West, David Sirota, Brihana Joy Gray, Cornell West, etc. went on every “news” and social media platform pushing the LIE that their was no difference between Democrats and republicans, and encouraging young people to not vote for Hillary. Noam Chomsky went out of his way to warn about the foolishness and danger of that using what happened in Germany because of that as the example, but he wasn’t in the bubble these self-identified “all or nothing” were part of. Do it my way or I will take my marbles a go home so to speak.

Obama inherited the disaster bush left us with the financial implosion a direct result of the Reagan/Bill Clinton deregulation policies, which was a major factor in his victory. Biden inherited the mishandling by trump of the pandemic which contributed was a major factor in President Biden’s 2020 victory.

Probably the worst thing from the abandonment of the so-called self-identified progressives from voting for the Democratic candidates was the disintegration of the SC since 2000 and the placement of Leonard Leo’s federalist society judges that whittled away the Civil Rights Act, Voting rights, gave us Citizens United, corporations are people, and that a president is above the law if he occupies the WH because he is immune from illegal acts unless congress or the SC say otherwise.

What too many people, Joe Rogan fan boys etc, don’t understand is that the Democratic party’s strength of being an inclusive party, has also been it weakness, and has never given us a true majority in Congress, since conservative Democrats were always an obstacle to a true majority. Manchin and Sinema were the stumbling blocks that Biden had to deal with, and Obama had his share of blue dog Democrats which limited what he could accomplish.

The Republican Party changed also. For the most they no longer allow dissent within their party. They have become a cult.

This is what we are up against, and those who feel the need to try to portray a false equivalency between both party’s miss some very basic understanding of the way things are.

Even if one accepts the false equivalency argument between the two parties, which I don’t, just the differences in the SC appointments alone should be obvious.

The sad state of affairs is the country supported someone who tried to overthrow the government, a racist, sexist and bigot, whose platform was hate and division, verses a candidate who policies were exactly the opposite.

and that alone speaks volumes about the American people, and it isn’t a very pretty picture. We might be Germany and Italy in the 30’s.





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