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newthinking

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21. So, how would you then define them? Your comments seem to (in a way) let them off the hook
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:22 AM
Mar 2013

I agree that it is difficult to compare the two (Nazism and arch conservatives), but I would argue that arch conservatism in it's fully mature form (which granted we are not seeing yet), is just as dangerous.

It causes a lot of problems when we try to define very complex social movements into a narrow group of possabilities. Just like we do with the types of economies. But we have to find ways to define the evils of movements like this.

If the conservatism that is expressed in much of the various leadership groups actually end up gaining enough power sure, it won't look just like "Nazism", but it could look very nasty.

Much of the movement have extremely autoritarian roots and there is definitely a problem with empathy in this movement.

They may not all agree, but they all have very heavy philosophies that revolve around dehumanizing those who do not believe as they do. Evancelicals with enough power would likely jail or even execute Gays and Lesbians, or those with the wrong beliefs. A lot of Ayn randian /right wing capitalists do not feel that those who do not "produce" in the way they feel is appropriate do not deserve to live. The "Nationalist" and "constitutionalist (well they think they are, but are really not) wing would easily subject those of alternate beliefs or free'r minsets to terrible jail sentences. Well, we are already moving down that path.

In the same way much of the Right wing are Social Darwinists, which is certainly as dangerous of a philosophy if followed more fully as Nazism was.

How would you prefer that we describe these dangerous values sets as? Or are you arguing they are not really dangerous values to societies? In that I would strenously disagree.

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Tired of having to explain [View all] iamthebandfanman Mar 2013 OP
We know what happened to those folks. formercia Mar 2013 #1
Nazis used to bust in on Communist and Socialist party meetings and beat everyone to a pulp.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #2
Like cops and Occupy. nt valerief Mar 2013 #3
More like Tea Party types showing up at Town Hall meetings,.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #5
Yeah, like cops beating up, tear-gassing, and imprisoning Occupy protesters. valerief Mar 2013 #7
That's authoritarian all right... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #9
"Liberal Fascism" Doc_Technical Mar 2013 #13
K & R right here! freshwest Mar 2013 #14
I never try to explain. I just laugh it off. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #4
Actually, the Conservative Movement uses the same propaganda. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #6
whatever you say Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #8
I could find something similar only with "Arabs"... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #10
Have fun with that. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #11
You shouldn't. "Never Forget" was about falling for this crap. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #12
Obnoxious as it gets, American conservatism doesn't measure up to Naziism Bucky Mar 2013 #16
Personal freedom? newthinking Mar 2013 #18
I've studied the rise of fascism in Europe. It appealed to the same things Republicans aspire to... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #19
I see a lot of projection here, but not a lot of analysis of objective fact Bucky Mar 2013 #20
So, how would you then define them? Your comments seem to (in a way) let them off the hook newthinking Mar 2013 #21
Good question. Bucky Mar 2013 #26
Just because I didn't devote the time to write a thesis on this topic does not make me wrong.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #23
OMG Bucky Mar 2013 #25
If I might add. The OP did not say that conservatives were Nazis newthinking Mar 2013 #22
No, I wasn't responding to the OP with this subthread. Bucky Mar 2013 #24
I had to look up "Feindmachten" Bucky Mar 2013 #17
It gets confusing for Americans when the German Commies denounce "Social Democracy" Bucky Mar 2013 #15
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