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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
30. Did you read my answer? You wouldn't need to guess.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:14 AM
Jun 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512188049#post19

Again, I'll go with James Rickards:



Repeal of Glass-Steagall Caused the Financial Crisis

The repeal of the law separating commercial and investment banking caused the 2008 financial crisis.


By James Rickards | Contributor Aug. 27, 2012

The oldest propaganda technique is to repeat a lie emphatically and often until it is taken for the truth. Something like this is going on now with regard to banks and the financial crisis. The big bank boosters and analysts who should know better are repeating the falsehood that repeal of Glass-Steagall had nothing to do with the Panic of 2008.

In fact, the financial crisis might not have happened at all but for the 1999 repeal of the Glass-Steagall law that separated commercial and investment banking for seven decades. If there is any hope of avoiding another meltdown, it's critical to understand why Glass-Steagall repeal helped to cause the crisis. Without a return to something like Glass-Steagall, another greater catastrophe is just a matter of time.

History is a good place to begin. After the Depression of 1920-21, the United States embarked on a period of economic prosperity known as the Roaring Twenties. It was a time of innovation, especially in consumer goods such as automobiles, radio, and refrigeration. Along with these goods came new forms of consumer credit and bank expansion. National City Bank (forerunner of today's Citibank) and Chase Bank opened offices to sell securities side-by-side with traditional banking products like deposits and loans.

As the decade progressed, the stock market boomed and eventually reached bubble territory. Along with the bubble came market manipulation in the form of organized pools that would ramp up the price of stocks and dump them on unsuspecting suckers just before the stock collapsed. Banks joined in by offering stocks of holding companies that were leveraged pyramid schemes and other securities backed by dubious assets.

In 1929, the music stopped, the stock market crashed and the Great Depression began. It took eight years from the start of the boom to the bust. Subsequent investigations revealed the extent of the fraud that preceded the crash. In 1933, Congress passed Glass-Steagall in response to the abuses. Banks would be allowed to take deposits and make loans. Brokers would be allowed to underwrite and sell securities. But no firm could do both due to conflicts of interest and risks to insured deposits. From 1933 to 1999, there were very few large bank failures and no financial panics comparable to the Panic of 2008. The law worked exactly as intended.

[font color="green"]In 1999, Democrats led by President Bill Clinton and Republicans led by Sen. Phil Gramm joined forces to repeal Glass-Steagall at the behest of the big banks. What happened over the next eight years was an almost exact replay of the Roaring Twenties. Once again, banks originated fraudulent loans and once again they sold them to their customers in the form of securities. The bubble peaked in 2007 and collapsed in 2008. The hard-earned knowledge of 1933 had been lost in the arrogance of 1999.[/font color]

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http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2012/08/27/repeal-of-glass-steagall-caused-the-financial-crisis



Seeing how the repeal of Glass Steagall put the US taxpayer on the hook for the Wall Street casino, I can understand why a Hillary supporter would side with Bill.

FTR: Here's what I wrote in February 28, 2008 regarding the S&L crisis, a dress-rehearsal for what was to come with the banks:

Know your BFEE: They Looted Your Nation’s S&Ls for Power and Profit

Then, after the Bankstershitstorm in September 21, 2008, I asked them who stole it to put it back:

Know your BFEE: Phil Gramm, the Meyer Lansky of the War Party, Set-Up the Biggest Bank Heist Ever.



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Great reminder. Thank you for posting! shakedown1970 Jun 2016 #1
Why Hillary R. Clinton, of course! 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #2
No. Her husband, who works in UBS Wealth Management with Phil Gramm. Octafish Jun 2016 #5
And, Mr./Ms. Octafish should be held to account for your sins? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #6
And I haven't? Octafish Jun 2016 #7
If you have, you probably didn't like it ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #9
Either converse and say something, or think of questions that have a point... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #21
1strongbackman likes to read things.... AlbertCat Jun 2016 #19
Funny ... I have said the same thing about you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #22
I have said the same thing about you . AlbertCat Jun 2016 #29
Okay ... I COULD say the same thing about you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #35
I can't figure out arikara Jun 2016 #38
I, initially, was asking how, or why, President Bill Clinton's signing the repeal of G-S ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #40
Thank you for clarifying. arikara Jun 2016 #42
Or, maybe, that she had anything to do with the repeal. There is that possibly. No? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #43
Is this better? arikara Jun 2016 #44
Or, that she, perhaps, had NOTHING to do with the repeal of G-S ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #45
Possibly arikara Jun 2016 #46
When did they ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #47
Whether she did or did not, she's now on record as being against re-reinstating it as Bernie wants. whathehell Jun 2016 #51
the question is she for reinstating it? hollysmom Jun 2016 #54
No. She is not for reinstating G-S; however, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #55
Hillary says so. She says its the 2 for 1 presidency!! avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #58
She said that 18 years after G-S and with her election ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #63
So it wasn't Hillary clinton ? gwheezie Jun 2016 #27
Isn't Bill the one that Sen Clinton says will be in charge of the economy? Winston.Smith Jun 2016 #52
Yup. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #60
Do I detect that you don't care about the protections of Glass-Steagall? rhett o rick Jun 2016 #11
Glass-Steagall wouldn't have protected us from the 2007-8 crash, which was pnwmom Jun 2016 #14
Actually it would have AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #17
That is factually incorrect ... The shadow banks were unafected by G-S ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #24
That's their story and they're sticking to it. seabeckind Jun 2016 #18
That is the corporate talking points. They desperately wanted Bill Clinton to sign rhett o rick Jun 2016 #25
I will respond, though it has been explained time, and time and time again ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #23
You are defending those that made an easy $12 trillion dollars that came from the middle rhett o rick Jun 2016 #26
No, I'm not! I merely recognize that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #36
Why then was it so important to repeal it? Your rationalization comes directly from those that rhett o rick Jun 2016 #37
I have made no "rationalization" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #41
Those 25 people are much wealthier today. The rest of us not so much. We really have become floriduck Jun 2016 #3
Sheldon Adelson the casino operator saw his fortune grow $2 billion in one day. Octafish Jun 2016 #32
Looks like Bill may get to finish off any remaining regulations. djean111 Jun 2016 #4
Chicago School of Austerity Octafish Jun 2016 #33
k&r.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #8
Strange how it's OK for Banksters to loot trillions and toss millions from their homes... Octafish Jun 2016 #62
OMG, I never realized so many Democrats voted for that.. DianaForRussFeingold Jun 2016 #10
Thanks, Diana. We support Russ, too! Duval Jun 2016 #16
Thanks Octafish. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #12
It was the work of Phil Gramm, now with USB, of course. Zen Democrat Jun 2016 #13
Watch Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, and Phil Gramm Have a Love Fest Over Repeal of Glass Steagall Octafish Jun 2016 #34
I'm sure glad Hillary has kept Bill out of the limelight lately floppyboo Jun 2016 #15
OT but thanks for reminding me. Stryder Jun 2016 #20
I wish he'd be set free arikara Jun 2016 #39
I guess you never read this after I found it for you BootinUp Jun 2016 #28
Did you read my answer? You wouldn't need to guess. Octafish Jun 2016 #30
I did! Thank you for all the awesome history. ancianita Jun 2016 #31
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #48
K&R felix_numinous Jun 2016 #49
K&R Thanks for posting this. JEB Jun 2016 #50
Some wrongly imply this has been debunked. Octafish Jun 2016 #59
Did Clinton repeal this by executive order? The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #53
Gramm pushed bill to repeal Glass-Steagall through Senate... Octafish Jun 2016 #56
The result is far from an open and shut case of what caused the collapse and you know it. The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #57
Right. Control Fraud along with repeal of Glass Steagall. Octafish Jun 2016 #61
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