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TreasonousBastard

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16. I have a fundamental problem with most of these articles and discussions...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:06 AM
Sep 2013

where we seem to be avoiding evolution and biology.

I don't know why human females suffer more debilitating effects from pregnancy and childbirth than other mammals, but they certainly seem to and historically that would seem to be a large part of the reason for gender roles.

Perhaps some anthropologists could chime in, but it seems reasonable to this amateur that our hunter-gatherer ancestors would notice half the population stuck pregnant and then nursing for up to two years or so for each child so let the other half do the heavy work and protect the village. Thusly, males evolved to be bigger and more aggressive. It was a matter of survival back then, and eventually one of convenience.

Today, we have answers for that, but seem to spend more time arguing over talking points and perceived insults than addressing the same first two years or so mothers have with their children. FWIW, I can't imagine any other social development over the past hundred thousand years or so since there wasn't much anyone could do about it besides wet nurses and servants until recently. And even now we can't change the basic biology of it all.

So, equality being the worthy goal, is there anything we can do to make us biologically equal other than crossbreeding us with seahorses?






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In my view, promoting femininity and feminine qualities, ie, nurturing, is the ultimate in feminism grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #1
The key word is "expecting" Major Nikon Sep 2013 #4
I disagree. Equality should mean something. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #5
Equal, yes. But I don't think that women should be forced to act like men or dress like men or grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #10
A good female welder must dress similarly to a good male welder. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #12
Similar.... grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #14
I've had sparks down the neck of my shirt. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #15
You are clearly not getting pscot Sep 2013 #2
"Benevolent Sexism" is a made up phrase rrneck Sep 2013 #3
I think it's an observable phenomenon Major Nikon Sep 2013 #6
It's certainly observable. rrneck Sep 2013 #7
Another thought... rrneck Sep 2013 #9
I fully agree. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #8
I think a lot of that all sort of evens out, though.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #11
Ironworkers make good money for exactly that reason. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #13
I have a fundamental problem with most of these articles and discussions... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #16
Not biologically equal, but there's plenty that can be done otherwise Major Nikon Sep 2013 #18
That's my point... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #19
I don't see the problem with that arrangement if both parties agree Major Nikon Sep 2013 #20
Is mutual agreement necessary? lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #21
If either one decides unilaterally, there's likely to be conflict Major Nikon Sep 2013 #22
I have a fundamental problem with most of these articles and discussions... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #16
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