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FogerRox

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16. Assumes 50mph? I doubt that

Reply to happyslug (Reply #6)

Tue May 14, 2013, 06:03 PM

May 2013

Unless the test for a gas car is different than a hybrid.

The new test metrics in 2008 are based on real driving conditions of 65 mph and the use of air conditioning. The Toyota Echo saw about a 5mpg drop on the hiway test, Hyper miling got 52mpg, 48mpg old test, 44mpg new test. The only way to get 44mpg hiway in an Echo is to 65-70mph on the hiway.

The Dodge Grand Caravan hiway mpg was 25mpg prior to 2008, it dropped to 23mpg. I've gotten 29.7 on the hiway. The only way to get 23mpg with this minivan is do 70-75mph with the air on.

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Assumes 50mph? I doubt that FogerRox May 2013 #16

In 2008 three additional tests were added by the EPA, but the older tests are still the same happyslug May 2013 #19

From the bottom link FogerRox May 2013 #20

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