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PamW

(1,825 posts)
21. THEY SURE DO!!!
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:17 AM
Feb 2012

nor do they specify the "need" for any percentage of "dependable" energy sources.
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They sure do specify the need for "dependable" energy sources:

http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=12619&page=259

"Dispatchable resources, typically natural-gas-fired units and sometimes hydropower, and interruptible demand are used to compensate for the lack of dispatchable resources when scheduled wind or other capacity diminishes."

Evidently you don't know the vocabulary of the industry. In the electric power industry, a "dispatchable" power source is one that you have "at your command", in other words, it is "dependable". The "dispatchable" resource delivers power on command. Nuclear, gas, coal, hydro are all "dispatchable" resources since they can be commanded.

Wind / solar are not dispatchable. You can't command either wind nor solar to give you energy on command; they are held hostage to the whims of Mother Nature - they are "unreliable".

So when the power from the unreliable solar and unreliable wind decreases due to the whims of Mother Nature; the utility has to have enough extra capacity in the power sources it CAN command to compensate for the unreliability of the renewables.

It's really, really simple. I don't know why you continue to go through all these prevarications to attempt to turn a "sow's ear" into a "silk purse".

PamW

LOL, this is actually kind of funny. joshcryer Feb 2012 #1
Don't say I didn't warn you!! PamW Feb 2012 #2
No reputable scientists would make false representations like that kristopher Feb 2012 #3
I EXPLAINED THAT!! PamW Feb 2012 #4
No you didn't. kristopher Feb 2012 #6
DONE! PamW Feb 2012 #7
Not done. kristopher Feb 2012 #8
OH BROTHER!! PamW Feb 2012 #9
Simply put, you are not telling the truth kristopher Feb 2012 #10
Poor READING COMPREHENSION!!! PamW Feb 2012 #11
This says it ALL!! PamW Feb 2012 #12
SURE THERE IS!!! PamW Feb 2012 #5
Evidently Kris didn't read this part! PamW Feb 2012 #13
Huh. caraher Feb 2012 #14
I sick and tired of Kris PamW Feb 2012 #17
There is no 2004 report, Pam. You made that up. kristopher Feb 2012 #15
WRONG and DISENGENUOUS!!! PamW Feb 2012 #16
Legitimate scientists do not fabricate data like you do. kristopher Feb 2012 #18
I DO NOT FABRICATE!!! PamW Feb 2012 #20
THEY SURE DO!!! PamW Feb 2012 #21
Kicked for review nt kristopher Jul 2013 #22
Obama seeks to make renewable Production Tax Credit permanent kristopher Feb 2012 #19
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