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Violet_Crumble

(36,328 posts)
35. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you on this one...
Sun May 18, 2025, 10:00 PM
May 18

And I do appreciate yr answers. When I see something I'm struggling to understand, I'd rather ask and try to understand, rather than end up guessing and probably coming to the wrong conclusion.

I do think overly simplistic and rigidly judgemental stereotyping is part and parcel of a place like DU. People use shorthand and do dumb things down, and the more complex the topic, the worse it gets. Time to indulge in my own stereotyping here, but I've noticed over the years that Americans seem to love simplistically labelling just about everything. One example I've just seen poke its head up in this forum is 'anti-Israel'. It appears to be used to describe people who are critical of Israel's actions towards the Palestinian people, but misses the blatant fact that it's possible to be critical, yet still admire the early Zionists and understand why a homeland for the Jewish people was and still is needed. That's where I stand, anyway.

Israeli politics used to hold a real interest for me, and its every changing multiparty system was (and probably still is) both messy and fascinating and seems closer to the political system of my own country than that of the US. There's a lot I don't understand, though, and would always defer to an Israeli (thankfully we have one in this forum, though she posts sporadically) on their political system and how it operates.

I agree with you that Netanyahu is beholden to the extremists in his government, and his goal is much like Trump's, to stay in power so he can stay out of prison. But I think in his own right, he's a terrible person. I remember that Leah Rabin blamed him for the assassination of her husband and made a point of refusing to accept condolences from him. It was because of the incitement he sowed. I don't think he's changed and that he's an opportunistic sack of crap and Israel deserves a far better leader than him.

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War criminals gonna crime. Dave Bowman May 2025 #1
Yes, that's what's happening. The warmongers have... brush May 2025 #2
"a pariah nation" Dave Bowman May 2025 #3
I keep hearing "a pariah nation" over and over again. Can you explain? Beastly Boy May 2025 #5
Killing a lot of innocent civilians when they didnt have to. Eko May 2025 #6
Clearly, that didn't make Israel a pariah nation. Beastly Boy May 2025 #7
No, pretty sure I know what it means. Eko May 2025 #8
You did see the numbers I cited, didn't you? Beastly Boy May 2025 #9
You do realize that Israel ranked lower than us right? Eko May 2025 #10
Oh yeah your link doesnt show what you posted either. Eko May 2025 #11
What I posted was my observations which I based on the numbers in my source. Beastly Boy May 2025 #12
How did you get Eko May 2025 #13
Ok, I will not indulge you with lessons on basic math Beastly Boy May 2025 #14
Not sure what this nath you are talking about is. Eko May 2025 #15
Take a guess. I am sure you can figure it out. Beastly Boy May 2025 #16
Unfortunately your Eko May 2025 #17
Show me. Beastly Boy May 2025 #18
Jt's not complicated and you know the answer. brush May 2025 #19
"Pariah nation" implies that a nation is considered an outcast among other nations. Beastly Boy May 2025 #20
You must be very proud that Israel's PM has a standing arrest warrant against him. brush May 2025 #21
So you will not address the facts that invalidate your use of "pariah" with respect to the nation of Israel. Beastly Boy May 2025 #22
Whatever 'facts' you're talkng about don't erase mass killings, bombing and destrction done to the Palestinians. brush May 2025 #23
I gave you multple sources, and they are all in agreement Beastly Boy May 2025 #24
Meh! Enjoy your war criminal PM. brush May 2025 #25
He is not my PM. But I appreciate your confirmation that getting personal is all you've got. Beastly Boy May 2025 #26
My mistake. Keep supporting Israel's war criminal PM. brush May 2025 #27
I am not supporting him. But keep proving my point. Beastly Boy May 2025 #28
Heehee. Dude, do you even know what you stand for? brush May 2025 #29
I do. And you don't. That was my point, and you keep driving it home. Beastly Boy May 2025 #30
Please. You're on everyone of these Israeli war crime OPs supporting Israel.. Do you support the war cries or not? brush May 2025 #31
Once again, you are illustrating my point. Beastly Boy May 2025 #32
Can you explain why you feel there's no distinction between the two? Violet_Crumble May 2025 #33
Just because you seem to be genuinely interested in my opinion, Beastly Boy May 2025 #34
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you on this one... Violet_Crumble May 18 #35
They bulldozed five tents. Sounds like some of these "settlers" had been displaced before. Hard to get..... FadedMullet May 2025 #4
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