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Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
32. Yeah, well, I just gave TMI.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:01 AM
Aug 2012

I wanted to be very forthright, to provide all relevant information.

It triggered "concerns" from a medical legal standpoint, aka a red flag, the checkmark you allude to.

OK, I can be blunt, since you all know pretty much my entire life story anyway. She asked me if I was ever suicidal, or ever had suicidal thoughts. I told her yes, which is truthful. I have suicidal thoughts now and then. Who doesn't? I think it's pretty normal human behavior to contemplate your own mortality, and to explore just a bit in your mind to think about how much control you might want over your death in situation X. "If I had terminal cancer and was in so much pain, I would want to do ...."

I think that having suicidal thoughts isn't the same as being suicidal. It is certainly a continuum, and the former is a necessary precondition for the latter. We all have many thoughts we never act on. I can think of buying a sports car, but that doesn't mean I'm racing one down the freeways tonight. I could go my entire life thinking of buying a sports car and never actually own one.

I don't act on these thoughts. Never. I don't even contemplate acting on them. The idea just comes at times. I view it perhaps differently, I view it much the way Dr. Jack Kevorkian did, it should be a right reserved to the individual for their use at an appropriate time. I don't buy the view that we are in some way "property of the state" that must be kept alive against our wills. And yes, it IS very different talking psychiatric versus medical reasons. But there are still similarities too. It is something I would want the right to do if my life were hopeless agony and pain. I don't feel I'm hopeless or in that much agony or pain. Frankly, a couple of prescriptions, some rest, a better diet, some weight loss (I am down 5 lbs as of this morning, yeah!), maybe a little less stress and some "me time" would probably fix me right up.

Its not something I have the vaguest concept of doing now. There is the issue, she didn't apparently believe me.

And she has a legal duty under Michigan law to report anyone who is an "imminent danger".


Define imminent. Well, that can get gray.

So, she kind of strong-armed me into going the route I really didn't want to go. I get where she is coming from. Doing her job, partially a CYA move too on her part, she would be professional responsible if she made a mistake and didn't deal with a patient in this situation who then did harm self or others.

I had half of the necessary conversation this morning with my mother. Laid the foundation, then there was an interruption and no more opportunity. I will finish tonight.

I am also contacting these proposed programs to get info from them.

Its probably not as dire as I felt yesterday. Chips are already falling, so be it.

And I could use a vacation, even if the spa isn't very luxurious. So we'll see.

Working on it. In a few weeks, all of this part of this will be behind me. Perspectives will be better, and I perhaps can shut up a while.

And again, I hope this wasn't TMI here, either. Just telling the truth.

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Settle down. What you say to your doctor is confidential. I'll post more in a minute. Tobin S. Aug 2012 #1
You know, I'm actually surprisingly calm. Denninmi Aug 2012 #3
You sounded like you were freaking out in your OP. Tobin S. Aug 2012 #6
No, your life is NOT over intaglio Aug 2012 #2
RE: Britain/UK. Denninmi Aug 2012 #4
I've got Bipolar 1, Denninmi. It's the worst kind. Tobin S. Aug 2012 #5
I guess my first step tomorrow will be to contact these programs and ask some questions. Denninmi Aug 2012 #7
You didn't offend me Tobin S. Aug 2012 #8
Yeah, I'm sure you're right. And I'm glad this worked for you. Denninmi Aug 2012 #9
As far as I know Tobin S. Aug 2012 #12
Well, reading between the lines. Denninmi Aug 2012 #18
Life isn't over. Neoma Aug 2012 #10
Thanks for the perspective. Denninmi Aug 2012 #11
If bipolar does anything, it makes your thoughts more negative. Neoma Aug 2012 #13
Well,basically in my life, if I didn't have negative thoughts, I wouldn't think about much at all. Denninmi Aug 2012 #14
Yeah, hypomania is not full blown mania Tobin S. Aug 2012 #15
Hypomania goes with bipolar II. Neoma Aug 2012 #16
Hey Neoma Tobin S. Aug 2012 #17
Then I have a hell of a lot of experience with mixed states. Neoma Aug 2012 #21
Hey, group. I'm learning something already. Denninmi Aug 2012 #19
It can be, but nobody here can say for sure Tobin S. Aug 2012 #20
you have to do what you have to do. mopinko Aug 2012 #22
Thanks. Denninmi Aug 2012 #23
nobody wants to go to the hospital. mopinko Aug 2012 #24
Well, I don't feel the need to rush into this. Denninmi Aug 2012 #25
a thing about shrinks- mopinko Aug 2012 #30
Yeah, well, I just gave TMI. Denninmi Aug 2012 #32
pretty much assumed that. mopinko Aug 2012 #33
I have neither the plan nor the means. Denninmi Aug 2012 #34
OK, next question. Denninmi Aug 2012 #26
If they truly hate you, Den, elleng Aug 2012 #27
It's not the end. It's the beginning of a new life- a better one. Tobin S. Aug 2012 #28
Some of the names on the list were surprising. Denninmi Aug 2012 #29
i think that i can pretty much promise you that it is not going to go like you think it is. mopinko Aug 2012 #31
Hey, you owe am a cup of coffee ... Denninmi Nov 2012 #35
you got it. mopinko Nov 2012 #36
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