Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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Reply to Warren Stupidity (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 06:30 PM

Jan 2013

I fixed that.

Re: "...if you can demonstrate that the gun crime rate does not correlate to gun availability..."

Violent crime victims are generally unconcerned about the tool used in their victimization. I am unconcerned about whether one third, two thirds or all murder victims are murdered using a gun. I am concerned about what will change the overall rate of murder. I think everyone should view it as progress if the overall rate of murder drops by half, regardless of whether none or all of those are murdered using a gun.

I have no interest in demonstrating anything solely about the gun crime rate. Anything which lowers the violent crime rate while respecting the rights of individuals is a good thing.

If all guns magically disappeared, but all of the crime rates remained the same what is improved?

Why is there any need to discuss the gun crime rate?

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Please vote: Just an inference on my part... [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 OP

You substituted "violent crime rate" for "murder rate." Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #1

available to whom? gejohnston Jan 2013 #2

Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #3

because the correlation between gun availability and crimes committed with guns is bloody obvious. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #8

If there is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #9

If there is a public health issue with 30,000 dead every year, yes it does. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #10

You've been well prepared... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #12

Pass on unscientific poll here, flawed as well jimmy the one Jan 2013 #4

oh my, such weaving of words of substance to say nothing. SQUEE Jan 2013 #5

My reason for asking was a bit more involved but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #7

I think I am due beer and travel money after reading this guy's posts. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #11

Please see... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #13

One word: Straw. There's a great future in it. nt Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #20

It was hypothetical discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #6

Sigh. The violent crime rate here is not higher. The homicide rate is (much) higher. DanTex Jan 2013 #14

Could be... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #15

Umm... 10,000 gun homicides, and 300 hundred self-defense homicides. DanTex Jan 2013 #16

You implied that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #17

I like the part where he says 300 hundred. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #18

you know how they think... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #19