Gun Control & RKBA

Matrosov

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44. Guns facilitate crime and suicide

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:29 PM

Dec 2014

It's much easier physically and mentally to kill family, coworkers, and school children, or to rob banks and convenience stores, with a gun than with a knife or a baseball bat.

Suicide is also an easier choice when a suicidal person knows they can die instantly with the pull of a trigger than take their life in a slower or more gruesome way. Furthermore, whereas there is still some hope for someone who is caught in the middle of a suicide attempt with a rope or with pills, there is almost never something you can do for someone who blew their brains out.

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What should be the limit on ownership of guns? [View all] sarisataka Nov 2014 OP

Should be able to choose more than 1 option chemp Nov 2014 #1

Limited options sarisataka Nov 2014 #3

what is wrong with a NRA safety course? saltpepperdoor Dec 2014 #24

I don't own a gun and never will yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #77

No public ownership. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #2

By publicly owned sarisataka Nov 2014 #5

Yes. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #8

Current system as is VScott Nov 2014 #4

^This^ n/t DustyJoe Nov 2014 #6

I feel much the same way. Veganstein Dec 2014 #34

I ticked 4 Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #7

I would like to see a voluntary reduction in gun upaloopa Nov 2014 #9

Are you willing to show your support for reduced firearm ownership.......... oneshooter Dec 2014 #35

I am going to a gun store and sell it to a dealer. upaloopa Dec 2014 #36

That is not "reducing ownership" that is simply changing ownership. oneshooter Dec 2014 #42

Fine I get a call out from a gunner upaloopa Dec 2014 #47

I do not ever recall sarisataka Dec 2014 #49

He is willing to give up his gun. oneshooter Dec 2014 #54

All we need is to add UBCs. nt hack89 Nov 2014 #10

My recommendations -- Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #11

Agree EOM. The Green Manalishi Dec 2014 #90

When I first saw this post, Jenoch Nov 2014 #12

Given the lack of radio buttons, I'll have to go with registration. stone space Nov 2014 #13

"Criminal gun owners" can not be required to register their firearms. n/t oneshooter Nov 2014 #14

But law abiding gun owners can. stone space Nov 2014 #20

Why would a law abiding gun owner need to register? Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #25

Unregistered guns would be illegal. stone space Dec 2014 #26

What would that prevent? Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #28

Law abiding gun owners would not be punished. stone space Dec 2014 #29

How long of a sentence should a woman serve for shooting a rapist with an unregistered gun? Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #31

I have a feeling... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2014 #33

The poll is effectively radio buttons. You can only choose one. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #22

oops...you're right. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #23

I voted for UBC option, but this can be handled at state Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #15

Would you be okay with a UBC Jenoch Nov 2014 #17

In principle, yes. I don't like "gotcha" laws... Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #18

Is it possible California made that change in the law Jenoch Nov 2014 #19

no restrictions cash buys gun helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #16

Really? Convicted murderer gets to own guns and Carry them? nt Logical Nov 2014 #21

If gunz have rights, then they should be allowed in prison cells. stone space Dec 2014 #27

That is one of those rhetorical arguments that is so manifestly ridiculous and beyond the Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #30

OK. I'm out. stone space Dec 2014 #32

Confiscation Matrosov Dec 2014 #37

The absence of guns doesn't lead to the absence of violence and crime. It may actually lead to more. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #38

Guns facilitate crime and suicide Matrosov Dec 2014 #44

Why, then, does largely gun-free Japan have such a high suicide rate? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2014 #52

It's a cultural issue in Japan Matrosov Dec 2014 #66

Less than 5% of sexual assaults involve an attacker with a gun. Why ban protection for women? nt Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #55

Because it's about much more than sexual assault Matrosov Dec 2014 #67

How many defensive gun uses occur annually? Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #68

Let us know when you (or your children) will be volunteering to do the confiscating. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2014 #39

Why should I volunteer? Matrosov Dec 2014 #45

Advocating for others to do risky things, but won't do them yourself? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2014 #50

That goes for a lot of things Matrosov Dec 2014 #64

John Fogerty and CCW described your mindset well: friendly_iconoclast Dec 2014 #69

The Lame Analogy of the Month award. Straw Man Dec 2014 #40

Hardly Matrosov Dec 2014 #43

You aren't fooling anyone. beevul Dec 2014 #46

The emphatic adverb. Straw Man Dec 2014 #48

No, it's a fantasy Matrosov Dec 2014 #65

Misconceptions galore. Straw Man Dec 2014 #72

While "good guy with a gun" is overwrought as social policy Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #70

Another "hand wringer" that preferes a "comfy" police state DonP Dec 2014 #41

In my opinion historical guns and replicas upaloopa Dec 2014 #51

So if you don't want discussion and opinion that differs from yours. oneshooter Dec 2014 #53

Don't define me don't put words upaloopa Dec 2014 #56

In other words,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, oneshooter Dec 2014 #57

Typical DashOneBravo Dec 2014 #58

Can't you control yourself? You are a bully upaloopa Dec 2014 #60

Cry me a river. Let use know when you have had your firearms destroyed. oneshooter Dec 2014 #61

Leave me alone upaloopa Dec 2014 #62

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #63

You will be surprised at what guns you just banned... kioa Dec 2014 #59

I actually agree with the highlighted quote... Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #71

Not painfully ignorant about guns. It isn't upaloopa Dec 2014 #78

"There are many things I have little knowledge of but it isn't painful or ignorance." friendly_iconoclast Dec 2014 #81

You should not own any kind of a gun..... American_74911003 Dec 2014 #73

Is it some badge of honor to know about guns. upaloopa Dec 2014 #79

Willful ignorance of a subject one opines about is not a virtue friendly_iconoclast Dec 2014 #80

The "gun knowledge slam" Straw Man Dec 2014 #82

We all are citizens of this country. upaloopa Dec 2014 #83

You yourself have noted that exploitation of low information voters... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2014 #84

So you're OK with laws and rulings based on ignorance? Straw Man Dec 2014 #85

Why do you reply by telling me what I think? upaloopa Dec 2014 #86

I'm telling you what you said. Straw Man Dec 2014 #88

I already voted but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2014 #74

Ah, the person who defines sarisataka Dec 2014 #75

"person who defines" discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2014 #76

IIRC, We've had a pretty steady stream of these self appointed zampolits down here DonP Dec 2014 #87

I tend to think that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2014 #89

good methodology doesn't override internet polling forum jimmy the one Dec 2014 #91

For the picture post group discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2014 #92