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NYC_SKP

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9. Let me take a shot at these:
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jan 2015

1. We will stop referring to ourselves as a “civil rights” organization that defends “human rights.” It is a sacrilege to people actually killed or harmed by civil and human rights abuses.

- - - - - If they did that, it was the right thing to do. Self-defense is most assuredly a Civil Right. Even in California's constitution.

2. We will stop pointing at Chicago and saying gun laws don’t work. We will admit the majority of Chicago crime guns are trafficked from states and counties with loose laws.

- - - - - Have they been doing that? I hadn't noticed. Oh well.

3. We will stop saying “the government is going to take your guns” to block federal laws. The confiscation we announced 7 years ago never happened.

- - - - - Good thing it never happened. Will it ever happen, can it ever happen? Let's make sure it doesn't.

4. We will stop blaming “mental health” problems for U.S. gun violence. We admit every country in the world has mental health problems but they don’t have Newtowns and Virginia Techs.

- - - - - Anyone who proposes that "mental health" and gun violence aren't related issues needs a check up.

5. We admit fighting universal background checks arms criminals and that “armed criminals” sells more guns to “good guys.” Ka-ching.

- - - - - I don't quite get this one, but then I'm not a member of the NRA.

6. We acknowledge that “outlaws” don’t have guns in the 28 EU countries, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Japan and other countries with strict gun regulations. We also admit, grudgingly, they are not “tyrannies.”

- - - - - Actually, just look at Australia for outlaws having guns. Next?

7. We will stop our insulting comparison of guns to knives, hammers, cars and swimming pools–none of which kill when used as directed. On the same day as the Sandy Hook massacre, 20 Chinese school children were attacked with a knife and none died.

- - - - - I haven't actually seen this but if the author wants to cite statistics in other countries, let them explain suicide rates in Japan.

8. We accept responsibility for the armed vigilante movement popularized by George Zimmerman and Michael Dunn. We admit “carry” laws are the biggest revenue infusion since “Obama is going to take your guns.”

- - - - - I wonder if the Gun Control camp is willing to accept any blame for increased sales of guns and ammo whenever they try to pass stupid laws. NB: not all proposed laws are stupid, but most are.

9. We will stop defending sales to civilians of non-defensive weapons like TrackingPoint’s “can’t miss” sniper rifle. We admit they are ready-made for insurrectionists, terrorists and hate groups.

- - - - - I don't know if they do that but if they are a lobbying arm of the industry then that's their job. No big deal to me.

10. We regret our work to help suspected domestic abusers keep their guns while under orders of protection. We admit this costs many women’s lives and that our sleazy sales pitch to tell women to arm themselves too just makes things worse.

- - - - - Again, I don't know if they've done that. Gun owners probably overwhelmingly do not support this sort of thing.


Gun owners are not the NRA, and the NRA is not the spokesmember for all gun owners.



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I'm not a member of the NRA, but here is my response. kioa Jan 2015 #1
Without debate #4 bugs me! Sick_of_TP Jan 2015 #7
saw the lock Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #2
I've always thought that if a person is unable to defend their position logically, kioa Jan 2015 #3
it's the sinking to Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #4
There's a select few who will debate honestly and civilly, GGJohn Jan 2015 #5
Yes, and I give those posters Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #6
But it really is possible... Veganstein Jan 2015 #16
Let's just pick #2 Shamash Jan 2015 #8
Let me take a shot at these: NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #9
That thread.. virginia mountainman Jan 2015 #10
New Year's Resolutions for Gun-Control religionists. oneshooter Jan 2015 #11
I would add BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #12
You are the one insisting that innocent people have to give up liberties because of your irrational kioa Jan 2015 #13
My favorite: The NRA is exploiting fear? LOL and bullshit. Gun banners depend on fear. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #17
The entire puprose of that thread is to sucker people into accepting guilt by association. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #14
It far easier to demonize a faceless boogyman than innocent Americans. kioa Jan 2015 #15
overall, you lose jimmy the one Jan 2015 #18
You never fail to entertain. beevul Jan 2015 #19
industrial giants vs firearm industry jimmy the one Jan 2015 #20
Aww poor jimmy, you missed something. beevul Jan 2015 #21
two peas in a pod jimmy the one Jan 2015 #22
Merriam wants a word with you. beevul Jan 2015 #23
pretentious babbling jimmy the one Jan 2015 #24
Lets just cust to the chase shall we? beevul Jan 2015 #25
info please & oxford dictionaires want you jimmy the one Jan 2015 #26
Gun control, when applied as directed, bans guns and infringes on the second amendment. n/t beevul Jan 2015 #27
So equivocation then. beevul Jan 2015 #28
the equivocation is yours jimmy the one Jan 2015 #29
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