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jimmy the one

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22. two peas in a pod
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 04:59 PM
Jan 2015
beevul: As directed by whom, Jimmy?
Jimmy: Typically Gun Owners...

beevul: One minor problem with that Jimmy. There are 300+ million guns owned 80+ million people, and yet there are 10 thousandish homicides.... So "typical" gun owners, are NOT directing their firearms as you claim.

No problem with my reasoning, the problem is with you, you create a false dilemma; You asked me who directed guns to kill people & other living things & I answered typically gun owners (a big fat DUH here). I did not contend that most gun owners killed people with their guns.

beevul: And then you go on to quote unfiltered numbers as if they are representative of domestic sales. I'm unsurprised.

Well then filter those numbers, don't just stand there & think you've rebutted successfully. What's your point? firearm industry profits about 30 billion dollars per year, 1b profit, not chump change. What is your point about domestic sales? don't exports also count to the profit & revenue?

beevul: MFG of firearms and ammunition for domestic sales and ownership is a drop in the bucket of just about every other industry.

Inapt metaphor, if firearm industry is a drop in a bucket then all those industries are drops in a bucket; comparing to higher end exxon oil (a portion of US oil industry), 30 billion overall gunsales to 438b, 438 drops makes less than an ounce: Amount: 1 fluid ounce US (fl oz) in volume Equals: 591 drops of water
So it's more like the gun industry is 30 drops in an exxon thimble, eh? but you were just transmogrifying for affect.

How would you compare overall gun industry with Ford motor tho, in a recent year? two peas in a pod????? : Sep 13, 2013 | The ammunition and firearms industry pulled in about $32 billion each year and employed 98,000 people. That’s $10 billion more than Ford made in the same year and five times more employees than Google. And the gun industry isn’t weakening – since 2004, major gun manufacturing company Sturm Ruger’s alone saw their revenue increase $183 million.http://www.publiusforum.com/category/guns/page/3/

Through it all, however, the number of firearms manufacturers kept growing, reflecting the strength of consumer demand. After expanding by a hundred or more businesses each year for most of the past three decades, the number of licensed firearms manufacturers shot up in recent years to 5,441 in 2011 from 2,959 in 2009 and 2,144 in 2004..http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/26/nr-draft-how-important-are-guns-to-the-u-s-economy-for-starters-the-firearms-industry-employs-twice-as-many-americans-as-bailed-out-gm/

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I'm not a member of the NRA, but here is my response. kioa Jan 2015 #1
Without debate #4 bugs me! Sick_of_TP Jan 2015 #7
saw the lock Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #2
I've always thought that if a person is unable to defend their position logically, kioa Jan 2015 #3
it's the sinking to Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #4
There's a select few who will debate honestly and civilly, GGJohn Jan 2015 #5
Yes, and I give those posters Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #6
But it really is possible... Veganstein Jan 2015 #16
Let's just pick #2 Shamash Jan 2015 #8
Let me take a shot at these: NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #9
That thread.. virginia mountainman Jan 2015 #10
New Year's Resolutions for Gun-Control religionists. oneshooter Jan 2015 #11
I would add BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #12
You are the one insisting that innocent people have to give up liberties because of your irrational kioa Jan 2015 #13
My favorite: The NRA is exploiting fear? LOL and bullshit. Gun banners depend on fear. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #17
The entire puprose of that thread is to sucker people into accepting guilt by association. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #14
It far easier to demonize a faceless boogyman than innocent Americans. kioa Jan 2015 #15
overall, you lose jimmy the one Jan 2015 #18
You never fail to entertain. beevul Jan 2015 #19
industrial giants vs firearm industry jimmy the one Jan 2015 #20
Aww poor jimmy, you missed something. beevul Jan 2015 #21
two peas in a pod jimmy the one Jan 2015 #22
Merriam wants a word with you. beevul Jan 2015 #23
pretentious babbling jimmy the one Jan 2015 #24
Lets just cust to the chase shall we? beevul Jan 2015 #25
info please & oxford dictionaires want you jimmy the one Jan 2015 #26
Gun control, when applied as directed, bans guns and infringes on the second amendment. n/t beevul Jan 2015 #27
So equivocation then. beevul Jan 2015 #28
the equivocation is yours jimmy the one Jan 2015 #29
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