Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Suggested New Years Resolutions for the NRA by kpete (Locked on GD-cut and pasted here) [View all]jimmy the one
(2,776 posts)22. two peas in a pod
beevul: As directed by whom, Jimmy?
Jimmy: Typically Gun Owners...
beevul: One minor problem with that Jimmy. There are 300+ million guns owned 80+ million people, and yet there are 10 thousandish homicides.... So "typical" gun owners, are NOT directing their firearms as you claim.
No problem with my reasoning, the problem is with you, you create a false dilemma; You asked me who directed guns to kill people & other living things & I answered typically gun owners (a big fat DUH here). I did not contend that most gun owners killed people with their guns.
beevul: And then you go on to quote unfiltered numbers as if they are representative of domestic sales. I'm unsurprised.
Well then filter those numbers, don't just stand there & think you've rebutted successfully. What's your point? firearm industry profits about 30 billion dollars per year, 1b profit, not chump change. What is your point about domestic sales? don't exports also count to the profit & revenue?
beevul: MFG of firearms and ammunition for domestic sales and ownership is a drop in the bucket of just about every other industry.
Inapt metaphor, if firearm industry is a drop in a bucket then all those industries are drops in a bucket; comparing to higher end exxon oil (a portion of US oil industry), 30 billion overall gunsales to 438b, 438 drops makes less than an ounce: Amount: 1 fluid ounce US (fl oz) in volume Equals: 591 drops of water
So it's more like the gun industry is 30 drops in an exxon thimble, eh? but you were just transmogrifying for affect.
How would you compare overall gun industry with Ford motor tho, in a recent year? two peas in a pod????? : Sep 13, 2013 | The ammunition and firearms industry pulled in about $32 billion each year and employed 98,000 people. Thats $10 billion more than Ford made in the same year and five times more employees than Google. And the gun industry isnt weakening since 2004, major gun manufacturing company Sturm Rugers alone saw their revenue increase $183 million.http://www.publiusforum.com/category/guns/page/3/
Through it all, however, the number of firearms manufacturers kept growing, reflecting the strength of consumer demand. After expanding by a hundred or more businesses each year for most of the past three decades, the number of licensed firearms manufacturers shot up in recent years to 5,441 in 2011 from 2,959 in 2009 and 2,144 in 2004..http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/26/nr-draft-how-important-are-guns-to-the-u-s-economy-for-starters-the-firearms-industry-employs-twice-as-many-americans-as-bailed-out-gm/
Jimmy: Typically Gun Owners...
beevul: One minor problem with that Jimmy. There are 300+ million guns owned 80+ million people, and yet there are 10 thousandish homicides.... So "typical" gun owners, are NOT directing their firearms as you claim.
No problem with my reasoning, the problem is with you, you create a false dilemma; You asked me who directed guns to kill people & other living things & I answered typically gun owners (a big fat DUH here). I did not contend that most gun owners killed people with their guns.
beevul: And then you go on to quote unfiltered numbers as if they are representative of domestic sales. I'm unsurprised.
Well then filter those numbers, don't just stand there & think you've rebutted successfully. What's your point? firearm industry profits about 30 billion dollars per year, 1b profit, not chump change. What is your point about domestic sales? don't exports also count to the profit & revenue?
beevul: MFG of firearms and ammunition for domestic sales and ownership is a drop in the bucket of just about every other industry.
Inapt metaphor, if firearm industry is a drop in a bucket then all those industries are drops in a bucket; comparing to higher end exxon oil (a portion of US oil industry), 30 billion overall gunsales to 438b, 438 drops makes less than an ounce: Amount: 1 fluid ounce US (fl oz) in volume Equals: 591 drops of water
So it's more like the gun industry is 30 drops in an exxon thimble, eh? but you were just transmogrifying for affect.
How would you compare overall gun industry with Ford motor tho, in a recent year? two peas in a pod????? : Sep 13, 2013 | The ammunition and firearms industry pulled in about $32 billion each year and employed 98,000 people. Thats $10 billion more than Ford made in the same year and five times more employees than Google. And the gun industry isnt weakening since 2004, major gun manufacturing company Sturm Rugers alone saw their revenue increase $183 million.http://www.publiusforum.com/category/guns/page/3/
Through it all, however, the number of firearms manufacturers kept growing, reflecting the strength of consumer demand. After expanding by a hundred or more businesses each year for most of the past three decades, the number of licensed firearms manufacturers shot up in recent years to 5,441 in 2011 from 2,959 in 2009 and 2,144 in 2004..http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/26/nr-draft-how-important-are-guns-to-the-u-s-economy-for-starters-the-firearms-industry-employs-twice-as-many-americans-as-bailed-out-gm/
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
29 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations

Suggested New Years Resolutions for the NRA by kpete (Locked on GD-cut and pasted here) [View all]
kioa
Jan 2015
OP
You are the one insisting that innocent people have to give up liberties because of your irrational
kioa
Jan 2015
#13
My favorite: The NRA is exploiting fear? LOL and bullshit. Gun banners depend on fear.
NYC_SKP
Jan 2015
#17
The entire puprose of that thread is to sucker people into accepting guilt by association.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2015
#14