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GayPleb

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49. Would I be guilty of murder?
Sat May 2, 2015, 07:46 AM
May 2015

Here is an except of a CCW experience I had. Please tell me if it is murder.

My pistol, I believe, has saved my friends and I from a violent encounter only a few years ago. I carry a pistol because my profession DOES NOT make me popular with criminals and may require travel into economically distressed areas to tend to victims and witnesses. While my profession is not a police officer or prosecutor, I am a Victim and Witness Services Coordinator for the County's DA's office.

The department I work in provides basic psychological support (until they get cleared for a licensed therapist), court assistance, transportation, and emotional / physical assistance in / out of the courtroom.

Needless to say, it does NOT make the employees popular with the defendants, when we consul victims and witnesses of violent crime from highly emotional states to where they can testify effectively.

My license came with training from the DA investigators, the PD firearms instructor, a private course, and regular classroom time. As the the background check, that was a foregone conclusion.

Coming back to my narrative, I had decided to visit a gay couple in the gay "district" of my city. When had a great meal and decided to walk our was back, through a park instead of calling a cab. As we neared the park, a car of immature young 20 year old's crawled by the four of us: me , my boyfriend, and the other gay couple. I believe that the reason attention was payed to us is because it was a cold night and we were holding each other (arms draped) as we walked.

Continuing, the car came to a crawl and the window opened up, Out came the word F----T and a beer bottle landing nowhere near us. Not wanting to ruin a good night filling out a police report amid "other" reasons it was universally decided to ignore it until the work week where I could report it at work.

As we exited the park, following our walk, the same car pulled up and stopped. Out come four drunk but very fit 20 somethings. We tell them to leave us alone and attempt to walk away but another beer bottle (empty) lands near us. As we turn two of them had grabbed additional beer bottles and were beginning to throw them at us.

At this point I unholstered my CCW pistol and pointed it at the violent group. Now call me a tech nerd but my pistol does have a strobing light and laser on it. The pistol temporary blinds them and I direct the laser towards the center mass of the individual that seemed less intoxicated.

The once hostile confrontation immediate deescalates as the less intoxicated person grabs the beer bottles from the hands of the two other individuals and telling me they don't want any trouble.

Needless to say a good night ruined and no hanky panky as dessert.

Now, had my state been very restrictive (less freedom) in relation to whom it gives CCW permits to (in some states, I would not have "good cause" / NYC, SF, or LA) I could have had to spend the night at the ER either holding my partners hand or being in the hospital bed myself.


Now in your world, if I saw the assailants continue on the process to throw beer bottles at the group and I could I have shot them or would I be guilty of murder?
Back at it again I see Mr. Alleged Calculuz Teacher. GGJohn May 2015 #1
Do you find gunstalking and murdering unarmed Black kids funny? stone space May 2015 #2
Typical of your responses. GGJohn May 2015 #3
What does my employment have to do with anything? stone space May 2015 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn May 2015 #5
I haven't even mentioned my employment here in this thread. stone space May 2015 #6
Why do you lie about what other members said in this group? eom. GGJohn May 2015 #7
I have lied about nothing. The statement endorsed by Zimmerman's supporters... stone space May 2015 #8
Yeah you have, GGJohn May 2015 #9
That explains your deleted post, then. stone space May 2015 #10
No, again, as usual, you got it wrong. GGJohn May 2015 #11
If you have any honor at all, you would delete those offensive lies GGJohn May 2015 #12
Please tell me 48% of DU did NOT say that about Zimmerman...please NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #26
Watchout they're going to pull a Canadian girl trick on you. ileus May 2015 #14
Its all they have left. N/T beevul May 2015 #18
Yup, 2 more states go constitutional carry, versus one post hide or a ban pretty balanced. LoL DonP May 2015 #22
Won't they at least wait until... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #19
Just so we understand... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #15
You won't get an honest answer. blueridge3210 May 2015 #17
Easiest poll ever. ileus May 2015 #13
I wasn't aware that person sarisataka May 2015 #16
Jury results Blue_Adept May 2015 #20
the older poll gejohnston May 2015 #21
Dont' expect an honest answer. blueridge3210 May 2015 #23
Trayvon Martin had a knife and tire chains? Human101948 May 2015 #28
he had fists gejohnston May 2015 #38
"These punks, they always get away..." Human101948 May 2015 #39
irrelevant gejohnston May 2015 #41
Wow! Talk about being all over the place... Human101948 May 2015 #42
Hardly all over the place. blueridge3210 May 2015 #43
my viewpoint is very simple gejohnston May 2015 #44
The point is this... 57_TomCat May 2015 #45
I stand by my vote then.. virginia mountainman May 2015 #24
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #25
uhmmm, Yea... virginia mountainman May 2015 #31
LOL. GGJohn May 2015 #51
I suggest that it is illogical to oppose that which you're unable to define. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #32
Are you? sarisataka May 2015 #33
And there you go lying again. GGJohn May 2015 #46
It's all he has. (nt) blueridge3210 May 2015 #48
Well you certainly have an axe to grind... Human101948 May 2015 #29
yea?! virginia mountainman May 2015 #36
You certainly are a cheerleader for more and more guns... Human101948 May 2015 #40
So, anyone who champions civil rights is grinding an axe? Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #50
still no proof or retraction? virginia mountainman May 2015 #52
A majority of the 48% were gungeoneers JimDandy May 2015 #27
Jury results... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2015 #30
That poll does not represent DU's opinion upaloopa May 2015 #34
Why do we keep having threads about that waste of oxygen? davepc May 2015 #35
I don't support the OP, either. Eleanors38 May 2015 #37
Seeing as you would label defense against sexual assault to be murder perhaps you aren't the Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #47
Would I be guilty of murder? GayPleb May 2015 #49
Glad you were okay. NaturalHigh May 2015 #53
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