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In reply to the discussion: Questions for gun control advocates, part 1 [View all]Shamash
(597 posts)58. More lack of logic on your part
Regarding #6:
This is United States-land. The votes of everyone count. If you wish to exist solely in an anti-gun echo chamber where you cannot hear from the 30% of Democrats who own guns, then I suggest you stop visiting here. Flamin lib is lonely over at GCRA and could use the support.
If you can show where these questions have used any source or study done by or funded by the NRA or any gun advocacy group, please do so.
You can also check the same question done by Pew, Quinnipiac and Nate Silver's fivethirtyeight.com. Unless all three of those are right wing as well.
Saying "so it has been suggested" regarding Gallup as right-wing is not demonstrating that it is right wing. After all, would anything I suggest about you be automatically counted as true by a DU audience? Would that it were so... Also, would your own DU record ever show you as supporting the results of a Gallup poll? Oh wait, that's a perfect introduction for #7!
Regarding #7:
Which is where you defend the accuracy of a Gallup poll after you just tried to tear down their credibility. I guess it is just coincidence that the poll you considered credible is one that matches your biases and the one that you think is faulty does not. It must suck to be you.
Regarding #9:
You are welcome to elaborate on any part of the historical record from the ratification of the Constitution until the present day, when the official stance of the United States government was that the 2nd Amendment only applied to those serving in an official militia. Then show for how many years out of that interval this stance applied. Then get back to me with the validity of your militia interpretation.
And FYI:
"The Supreme Court did hold that there is in the Second Amendment an individual right to bear arms. And that is its holding and that is the court's decision. I fully accept that." - Sonia Sotomayor
There is no question, after Heller, that the Second Amendment guarantees Americans the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation. - Elena Kagan
Overall, your answers or more particularly your lack of them, are about what I would expect from you. Goodbye.
This is United States-land. The votes of everyone count. If you wish to exist solely in an anti-gun echo chamber where you cannot hear from the 30% of Democrats who own guns, then I suggest you stop visiting here. Flamin lib is lonely over at GCRA and could use the support.
If you can show where these questions have used any source or study done by or funded by the NRA or any gun advocacy group, please do so.
You can also check the same question done by Pew, Quinnipiac and Nate Silver's fivethirtyeight.com. Unless all three of those are right wing as well.
Saying "so it has been suggested" regarding Gallup as right-wing is not demonstrating that it is right wing. After all, would anything I suggest about you be automatically counted as true by a DU audience? Would that it were so... Also, would your own DU record ever show you as supporting the results of a Gallup poll? Oh wait, that's a perfect introduction for #7!
Regarding #7:
Which is where you defend the accuracy of a Gallup poll after you just tried to tear down their credibility. I guess it is just coincidence that the poll you considered credible is one that matches your biases and the one that you think is faulty does not. It must suck to be you.
Regarding #9:
You are welcome to elaborate on any part of the historical record from the ratification of the Constitution until the present day, when the official stance of the United States government was that the 2nd Amendment only applied to those serving in an official militia. Then show for how many years out of that interval this stance applied. Then get back to me with the validity of your militia interpretation.
And FYI:
"The Supreme Court did hold that there is in the Second Amendment an individual right to bear arms. And that is its holding and that is the court's decision. I fully accept that." - Sonia Sotomayor
There is no question, after Heller, that the Second Amendment guarantees Americans the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation. - Elena Kagan
Overall, your answers or more particularly your lack of them, are about what I would expect from you. Goodbye.
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Question: why do all the questions assume a deadly, mobile, concealable WMD is a fluffy toy? Unneeded gun ownership is terrorism.
Fred Sanders
Jun 2015
#1
The inference says volumes about cartoon scrapers/Third Way® apologists...
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#15
Reposting cartoons, while insulting others, is easy. Answering questions is hard
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#16
Outstanding post Shamash. I expect you'll be getting nothing but dodges and slurs, though.
pablo_marmol
Jun 2015
#19
"(S)ubjective gibberish"? I'll gladly stipulate your expertise on the subject...
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#90
Some Palin-level 'legal scholars' seem to have a problem with that...
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#75